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Holy crap. Some weird, dark stuff going on inside that melon.

Not together, but definitely giggling. He is a real POS.

Hmmm. I think of it the other way around. If I say WTF or Sad to someone it is because I think they are being a troll. And if they say it to me it is because they think I am the troll.

Shouldn't it be based on reactions received rather than given? I should be at 1%. Shorting changing me like that is some serious troll stuff.

148 million more reasons Giuliani is Mayor of POS Town https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-ordered-pay-defamation-trial-wraps

Ah, what could have been if not for WWII. Undefeated in high school, college, and at freestyle.

I think my favorite Robin Reed fact is that he won the 1924 Olympic trials at FOUR weight classes. Alas, he suffers from being born at the wrong time (in the wrong direction) for our college board.

You just don't know how to take a compliment. You have already, very lamely, used this in your thread. The repeat performance makes is beyond lame. It is has gone from a bad look for them to a worse look for you. Way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Counterpoint. Alirez is the landmine. Alirez wins it all.

It is kind of like asking how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop. While I am no wise old owl, I will attempt to answer the question my way. Criteria: The list of GOATs is only ever one long. It actually is not a list, or plural, it is a single entry. Since time flows in one direction someone can be the GOAT before another GOAT, but not after. To be the GOAT, you have to beat the GOAT. At any one point in time there can be only one GOAT (see #1). So while someone might have a resume that ranks him above a prior GOAT or as one of the two best all time, they cannot be the GOAT unless their resume surpasses whoever holds the then current GOAT title. Olympic results after the completion of college do not factor in, but Olympic results during (or before?) college do factor in, but do not necessarily trump college results. After all, this is the College Wrestling board. Your GOAT Timeline 1928 The OG (Original GOAT) - Harold Demarsh winner of the first weight contested at the first NCAA tournament, DeMarsh was 5-0 as a senior with just 2 of those victories at the tournament. I know. But we have to start somewhere. As an aside, everything old is new again. THIS was the original age of load management. 1928 George Rule - replaces Harold Demarsh as he was 8-0 and won the 1928 175 pound bracket with 3 victories. 1928 Earl McCready - even though he only won 2 matches at that inaugural tournament, McCready did it in style with back to back oinfalls. His 19 second pinfall in the finals is still the tournament record. McCready went on to win two more titles in undefeated fashion while pinfalling everything in sight. He finished his college career 25-0 with 20 pinfalls. As a sophomore, McCready represented Canada in the 1928 Olympics, finishing in a tie for 6th. https://olympics.com/en/athletes/earl-mccready While the 1928 tournament went through GOATs almost as fast as it went through bouts, it would be some time before Earl was replaced on the GOAT list. 1957 Dan Hodge - From 1955 to 1957 Hodge went 46-0 with 36 pinfalls (22 in a row at one point). While it is not the Olympics, this achievement also adds to the GOAT resume. From his NWHOF bio "In one 10-day span in 1956, his junior year, Hodge won the NCAA title and National AAU championships in both Greco-Roman and freestyle, winning every bout in those three tournaments by fall." Hodege also gets huge bonus points for wrestling in the Olympics WHILE STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL, finishing 5th in 1952. In 1956, while still in college he finished second in the 1956 Olympics on a controversial rolling pin call. The one ding against him is that he actually lost the 1956 Olympic trials, but when the trials winner was disqualified because he had coached (oh, the scandal), Hodge was his substitute. https://olympics.com/en/athletes/daniel-allen-hodge 1966 Yojiro Uetake - This is a tough one. At 58-0 Uetake did not wrestle a significantly greater number of matches than Hodge, certainly not enough more to replace Hodge on volume alone. So the tie breaker for me is his Olympic result while in college. In 1964, after his sophomore year, Uetake traveled to Mexico CIty and took the 57kg gold. https://olympics.com/en/athletes/yojiro-uetake 2002 Cael Sanderson - 159, nuff said. The Bad Beats Band of Brothers So who are the guys who were good enough to be a GOAT, but had the misfortune of being born after a slightly GOATier GOAT? Let's start with McCready's Oklahoma State teammate, Conrad Caldwell. He went 18-0 but started his career 1 year after McCready. Ditto Jack Van Bebber, another McCready teammate who went 22-0 but started his run a year too late. One year younger and Harold DeMarsh is never a GOAT. But he is, and they are not. This GOAT stuff is pretty unfair. Next on my list is a third Cowboy, Rex Peery, he of the 29-0 career mark and the GOAT of genetic material. This is clearly the GOAT family of wrestling without anyone becoming the actual GOAT. In addition to Rex's 3-3 NCAA tournaments, his sons Ed and Hugh also went 3-3. That their dad was also their coach almost seems unfair (a GOAT theme?). Yes, unfairness is the theme. Probably the toughest to leave off the list is Gray Simons. An Olympic qualifier in 1960 (while in college) and 1964, he was 70-0 his sophomore through senior season. Attending Lock Haven meant he wrestled NAIA and NCAA. As a freshman he did lose twice, but was not eligible to wrestle in the NCAA tournament. He won four NAIA tournaments on top of his three NCAA tournaments, and was voted outstanding wrestler at 6 of those 7 tournaments. Author's Note: Thank you @Jimmy Cinnabon for being a constant source of inspiration to us all.

exactly figures never lie, but liars always figure

When you say six figures is that for a freshman and spread across four-ish years? Or is it per year? Or is that for a transfer spread across one or maybe two years? Is that a guarantee or just an estimate? If it is an estimate, do you have any idea yet how accurate those estimates are? Not looking for you to betray any confidences, but I am very curious because there are so many variables, but people tend to talk about these things like there are no variables.

4.2 means a 20% chance of 5 (sorta). I checked with the judge and he will allow it.

Free Monologues for Kids? Interesting choice. Reminds me of Sixteen Candles when Molly Ringwald's family forget her sixteenth birthday. But she did land Jake. Hopefully Jimmy finds his Jake.

Merry Christmas

You are an uninteresting schoolmarm.

Disagreeing with you does not make me a dummy. More often than not it makes me smart. Try not to make every interaction an opportunity for feigned condescension.

I disagree. A recall that involves replacing parts on a car is very expensive for the company. Parts need to be purchased, mechanics need to be paid to install the new part, there is an opportunity cost in that the mechanic's time is not being used to generate revenue, and there will be the need to supply the occasional loaner vehicle. All in, it can be very expensive. This is a software update. Write once, read many. The total cost and marginal cost is de minis. Your original question was why did the stock not go down? Well, this is why.

Before CKLV I had Michigan projected second by a single point over NC State (so close that second through fourth is realistic). But CKLV was rough on Michigan's ranks and they dropped all the way down to ninth, a whopping 18 points behind NC State. So it depends on where you think Gomez finishes. First? They are solid contenders for second. Second? Second through fourth is realistic. Third? Probably still on the podium.

There are recalls and then there are recalls. This is the other one. It is an over the air software update, which happens all the time anyway, positioned as a recall. Most owners won't even know it happened, so Tesla has to send them a letter telling them it happened.

Exactly. No one knows what these numbers mean, never mind if they are accurate. Even when the numbers are disclosed people don't know what they mean. Take Shohei Otani, for example. First it was a 10 year $700 million dollar deal, but then the structure was revealed and it was counted as a 10 year $460 million NPV deal. But even that isn't correct. Their NPV calc is based on all the deferred money being paid in 10 years. But only 1/10 is paid in 10 years. The point is never trust the headline number, never believe the rumored number, and never trust someone else to do the math for you.

Be careful googling "woodies"

Anyone know what Real Woods is driving? I will take the under on all these numbers.

My all time favorite quote from that movie. Imagine my disappointment when it was not included in the pinball machine. "It's not my fault" "Gentlemen, and that is how we do that?" "Come on rookie, park that thing" "We have liftoff" "Let the moon's gravity slingshot them around" All made the cut. But no "You, sir, are a steely-eyed missile man"? What a missed opportunity.