Hammerlock3

can someone take the "pin falls" joke out to pasture already....

I was just saying Iowa might have had some pretty insane teams if they could have recruited the other colleges. Also in 1997 Iowa didn't have anyone with 6 years of eligibility.

tranfer portal makes it like comparing dead ball era pitchers to modern ones....and PSU isn't Bob Gibson in this analogy(yet).

a sense a little bit of cronyism among elite athletes....

If you do it the right way (notice I didn't put right way in quotes), you lose the 2/3 matchup, which is the most contentious one typically. I'd disagree with you slightly about getting the best guys into the finals. No one is gonna be annoyed when the one seed makes it, and overloading the bottom means whoever emerges is gonna seem legit. But yes if i was in charge i'd make em seed the whole thing and sit no one out, then seed the whole thing with the alein in an empty quarter, then your way, fourth best would be the way they're doing it apparently.

Another thing that occurred to me which is maybe part of the rationale but still is not good, no matter what happens the seeders are vindicated. Alein beats 2? His spot in the bracket is justified and the procedure was right (even if its because he didn't have to wrestle that morning)! He loses, well the seeds held so the seeders were right." Lets say you seed everyone, drop the alien in at the 3, and he gets teched in the first round cause he can't move....who looks stupid then?

Yes this is true and bad. The benefit of it however is that preserves the integrity of of everything the seeders are willing to take responsibility for. Not saying thats good, just guessing as to the logic. My biggest problem with this scenario is that you are giving someone who is probably enormous a weigh in completely dissimilar to what they have at worlds. Shouldnt we be screening for whether or not these people can move after a 2 hour weigh in? Conversely, if Marstellar had placed and gone up, we'd be dropping someone with NO chance of winning into the semis. Anyway as evidenced by the way we need to resort to guessing and inventing new pseudo sciences to exaplain it means dropping these people into the semi's is stupid.

Robie has been pretty good at pulling in high profile guys from a variety of places...very difficult to predict, doubt he'll jump at a tech guy. Seems likely a smaller guy who can be a practice partner is a priority, or maybe midsized depending on how much frayer is wrestling these days. Another concern might be if they are worried about Henson getting portal swooped, maybe you get someone to challenge him.

I talk about this in another topic, I think the core idea is that they have to treat the alien from another weight as a wild card. There are good reasons for this. I likely haven't had a lot of recent head to heads, and most of all, there is no way to tell for any them whether they are gonna be a juggernaut or a skeleton at the new weight. Even if we knew how much they were cutting it would be hard to tell what aspects of recovery would be compromised, bad weight cuts can come out of nowhere. So if you've made that decision, which is sort of a punt but also sort of prudent if you acknowledge that seeding them in would be even more of a crap shoot than usual, the smart thing becomes preserving the integrity of the seeds and keeping the wildcard as far away from the one seed as possible.

yeah yeah only saints involved I've heard.

oh now I see you're just misinformed.

hidlay and brooks were both 184 last year, taylor has been at 189 for what 5 years? Doubt there is a strength advantage. I'd go more of an "overall youth" advantage.

I lot of people agree with you. I'll confess I feel softer on the subject then when i started, though I still think "corrupt" isn't too strong a word.

I'm not saying he's lying I'm saying he is being consciously misleading

I've seen him say a few times that "we stuck with our guys" in reference to the portal. He's either saying this as a non-sequitur, or its a rhetorical device designed to imply that he is more loyal than other coaches.

you can't make this stuff up. Someone pay attention to this man!

I'm should point out that i'm glad pyles is mixing it up with Ryan, which flies in the face of my usual characterization of Pyles.

Ryan's implication, that he isn't using the portal cause he's so ethical, is a joke. He just happened to have a young talented team and it makes no sense to shop for seniors over them.

are they? I'm blocked....

I think they are legal but you can't lose them to cut weight or something?

Dresser enticed a big recruit by giving his father a job.

If my suspicion isn't obvious i doubt i'll be able to explain it in a way you could suddenly understand.

the timing of the hire doesn't have to be concurrent with when David committed to be part of a corrupt deal. I'm fine with someone saying that as convenient as the situation was there is no smoking gun, I'd push back on the idea that its in poor taste to point out how convenient it was.

Why did michael bay make Pearl Harbor?

My general takeaway from you in this topic is that you might be more pragmatic in your thinking on this subject, and less inclined to criticism...at least than I am.