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If the youngest stays well balanced and is able to extract himself from the insanity, he is going to either write a killer book or have an incredible podcast in 15 years.

Eggum is the Minnesota analog to Brands, but seemingly does it with in a much more palatable fashion. He’s not J-rob, per se, and there’s no chance he brings home a title ever, but we can say the same things about every coach not named cael right now. I’m not a gopher die hard, and I 100% leave this open to die hard fans to correct me on, but I do have to say, on average, the minnesota wrestlers I’ve come across rank very close to the top of the competitive ranks in terms of composure, behavior, and regularly exemplifying the best qualities of the sport day in and day out. Also, didn’t J-Rob take the proverbial bullet for his athletes? He made an immense sacrifice to give one of his wrestlers a second chance. Even if some of those kids were making bad choices, he also knew full well how duplicitous college administrations are.

Because their room is already harder than anything they’ll face in competition. They also don’t need the matches with all the competition they get in throughout the year. A major part of their success is they classically under-wrestle in-season volume, they have for a long time, and they are rewarded with healthier teams and natl titles. Dual meets are just dress rehearsals to them.

I agree with you that this young man needs guidance, I draw the line for grace when his behavior is actively physically harming innocent bystanders (his opponents). This also isn’t high school, this is a D1 program, and we are talking about an athlete in his 20’s. I agree he needs help, but you lose the ability to be “given another chance” when you regularly maim others by intentionally leaving the established rules of competition. Obviously the coaches are trying to give him a lot of chances, but at a certain point you also have to have standards, bc its disrespectful to and dangerous for all the other athletes who aren’t throwing haymaker knee bars on single legs. Grace is good, and I support it, but it doesn’t have to and shouldn’t come at the expense of others.

This is very true, but it is getting to the point that coach Nickerson can be argued to be complicit in contributing to the creation of a dangerous wrestling environment by continuing to put that guy out there. Wrestling is about scoring points, and wrestlers position themselves to that end. This obviously leaves joints open to aggressive il-intentioned manipulation. This wrestler has clearly studied where these opportunities are, joint locks are not hard to research nowadays, and is happy to go to that playing field whenever he likes. At any moment a collar tie can become a punch, a front headlock can become a guillotine, a short offense underhook can become a kimura. By continuing to put this wrestler on the mat northern colorado is destroying the agreement and trust which underpins a wrestling match. The kid knee-bared an unsuspecting opponent. That move can destroy legs and destroy lives. If I were a college coach I would keep northern colorado at arms length.

To clarify, does dry mean year round or just in season?

Yes, this is exactly what recruiting is built on, to the extent that most programs don’t have a playbook for kids that doesn’t really party that much.

In an attempt to punch his teammate, he punched a ref in the face.

AJ looked sane enough in high school, just hard-nosed. Getting freedom and being away from parents didn’t really go too well.

Nah, but I bet Arizona State is ready and waiting.

Or, more accurately, they were raised by people coming from a place of notable insecurity, who passed that on to their kids, and have only taught them to embrace and identify with the most expensive and caustic corners of the human emotional spectrum.

I wish I didn’t agree with this, but since J Smith clearly felt that he needed to go, yeah it really isn’t a good look to be selling the Iowa image down the river for attention and maybe a few wins.

That’s a heck of a statement considering what precedes him. Is this because Jr has already detonated and people are just turning a blind eye?

NYC not exactly a wrestling spectator hotspot, but the infrastructure is there.

Tanelli is Jersey through and through, is one of the earliest Edge guys from way back when the Edge was in a warehouse off the garden state parkway. Since then the Edge has only grown, and is now just across the river in Hoboken. Now with columbia, Edge, and the NYCRTC all being tied together, Tanelli is likely there for the long haul. Also, Columbia has as much $ as any school to throw at successful programs, and wrestling is definitely on the up and up under Tanelli. I would place even money that columbia places higher than Wisconsin this year.

Hahaha, how many people do the whole religion thing just to cover their bases?

I’m deeeefinitely not advocating “less science less investigation” approach. NFW. Just that we ought air on the side of kindness towards others, and awareness of the limitations of our own opinions/beliefs Also, liminal, great word.

That's cool, I'll definitely give that a look. The gravity example is a major part of what I was thinking about.

I hope you are able to be reflective enough to see the irony to your post's structure, bc it follows the exact same logic path and argumentation that is used by the people you are poo-pooing. I am barely if at all religious, but I would offer the exact same position for "toxic atheism," which makes assumptions about why people view the world the way they do, and assumes that everything we know in science is the be all end all of our entire existence. Toxic atheism just places the very mutable malleable body of science as its God. Our current body of science, which zealous adherents regularly and (arrogantly) assume is unassailable AND complete, is fantastically incomplete. Zealotry in this case takes the form of assuming we have the complete "scientific picture" and know everything about everything...then it gets changed within the next 20 years... The immense irony is that such aggressively pro-science approaches are simply lauding science as the unassailable God, and scientists as their white coat-clad clergy. This all happens in with a body of work put together by self-motivated and self-serving people who have a documented track record of lying, altering facts, and deceiving the masses for personal gain. Not unlike the ill-behaving clergy and religious heads of yore and today. Coincidence? I think not. We don't, and in our lifetimes very likely will not have the answers to the universe. The specter of mortality hangs the same for everyone. How people choose to face that is up to them.

Brooks no question. Better coaching, better consistency, he may even look bigger when they step on the mat. “Personality” discussion aside, one has many titles, and competed for a world team spot last year, the other has been busy healing from serious injuries, which has a major impact on stamina, muscle mass set point, and power output. People will say this is crazy, but to me Ferrari looks small. When he won his freshman year he did it largely bc he cut an insane amount of weight and could out-horse and then out-split the competition. I don’t see the patented headbutt double working on brooks, and I more realistically question if they even get the opportunity to meet, brooks isn’t the only tough guy at 197.

I’m slow as molasses, but I did finally get it

Every good high school and college wrestler from the 90’s to the late 2000’s, maybe early 2010’s, but particularly those who made it far in the ncaa tournament with a standup and zero offense -the dropdown to a single stalling count rule, best rule change in my lifetime

Flo’s business practices are a textbook example of why monopolies are (and should be) illegal. The face if Flowrestling content was a cross country runner. Nothing against cross country, but he’s clearly a product manager, not a sports enthusiast. With the exception of bader, who I assume is legacy upper management, every single dude who put wrestling content and enthusiasm at the fore of their efforts has left. A long long time ago, it used to be possible to interact with the people from Flo. Then, someone decided it was a bad idea to provide people a platform to get called out on for poor delivery of promised services, so Flo removed any level of community building or community interaction. I’m looking forward to real competitors throwing their bats in the ring, bc Flo’s entire business is trying to monopolize broadcast rights for niche sports, and then sitting on them and under-delivering on what was promised while charging full price. It’s the sports broadcasting rights version of what walmart does in small towns.

It 100% is on the Flo broadcast side. This isn’t the first time they’ve done it. They (poorly) ram adds in everywhere they find dead space or captive eyeballs they can manipulate. They have no respect for the sports they broadcast. It’s like they’re trying to recreate the early ESPN days where they would just play adds instead of the first two periods of a match, and then show the back half of the third period, bringing back in the broadcast “well it’s been a fascinating match, and it looks like the #2 wrestler is about to pull the upset with only 20 seconds left and a 7 point lead.” Flo WAS a passion project once. Now they are just passionately duplicitous and unaccountable.