Dogbone

^^^ This ^^^ The reality is we may not know anything with regard to how healthy he is until NCAA 1st round, good or bad.

Wishful thinking. Barring injury I don't see how Beau can finish as low as 7th. You still have them with 6 AAs and at least 2 finalist and a 3rd. I don't think anyone can top that. Outside of getting the same flu Mizzou got, PSU will have it locked up before Saturday night.

I'll take 125 lbs - all of them and none of them at the same time.

That was your takeaway from my comments??

I agree it was not imminent. Was using it more of an example with regard to the stoppage.

I don't see the different between figuring four the leg and staying parallel. Neither is trying to turn or break a guy down and both could be said you are incapacitate or wearing a guy down, heck if you are parallel you at least have already broken the guy down. Both are stalling in my opinion.

I think you are hearing that more because Refs are mik'ed up. Refs have been saying work to improve, keep it legal, etc. forever. You just couldn't hear it as much before.

Not to re-litigate the Hardy/Bartlett call but if a guy calls out for injury time and the TD is imminent then I think the points should be awarded. Okay with stopping the action to prevent injury but not points. Some injuries are not preventable by PD, but I am not sure that means we should eliminate PD.

What I think is stalling on top is clearly not in NCAA. As mentioned, it is not called consistently either.

Hopefully it was just precautionary and he was freaking out a bit and it's not that serious. I don't know how anyone can relate this to the potentially dangerous call in the Hardy/Bartlett match. This one happened so fast and Star does put himself there while going for the pin.

The first stalling call on Lovett in the 1st period was worse as I don't think Parco had taken a shot, yet, so when the 2nd one was called it was a point and allowed Parco to stall out the rest of the match. I don't think the 2nd stall call was that bad as Lovett is just trying to push out, but it would nice if that was called consistently as that happens 90% time when someone gets to the edge. It is even worse in top/bottom position in my opinion.

Angel making sure everyone knows he is reffing. Is there an award for the most questionable calls?

If KOT would of RS this would be a good argument but he didn't. He entered the NCAA tournament and will get 5 chances to win 4. We can't say he hypothetically would of RS'd so we are just ignoring the result. IF he wins 4 titles he will be in the discussion with the other 4 timers. People have ranked Logan lower (of the 4 timers) due to his freshman year and argued Dake's 4 in 4 years makes his more impressive than the others who didn't RS. No one is going to take away any KOT titles but it will be looked at differently.

If you get 5 chances and win 4 of them and everyone else had 4 chances and won all 4, it is absolutely an asterisk. I know they have said he only went because it was a free year, but we don't know that faced with a normal eligibility rules they would of kept the RS on the 3rd best wrestler in the country that year. Sure when the year didn't count it is a no brainer, but the decision to sit a high AA caliber guy isn't as easy. Gabe Arnold isn't even at his ideal weight and there is discussion about pulling his RS because he very well could be a high AA finish.

Its 125 so who really knows. I debated picking the upset for the reasons you listed but picked Ayala because I think he is a tier above, if there is such a thing as tiers at 125 this year.

Ayala dec. Spratly 3-0 IA Fix md. Iowa 4-3 OSU Woods dec. Jamison 6-4 IA Rathjen dec. Williams 9-4 IA Travis dec. Franek 9-7 IA Olejnik dec. Caliendo 10-9 OSU Kennedy dec. Thomspon 12-10 IA Plott dec. Arnold 13-12 OSU (Plott Majors Riggins 14-12 OSU, if he goes) Glazier dec. Surber 15-13 IA Doucer dec. Hill 16-15 OSU. I got it 5 matches to 5 with the only bonus at 133 unless Riggins goes at 184. Lot's of toss ups, but give me the home team. I won't be shocked if I am wrong on 125, 149, 157, 165, 174, 197, or HWT.

Should an undefeated Big 12 HWT get the #1 seed? I know Kerk is ranked #1 and he is my pick but he has only wrestled 11 matches. The Big 12 has currently 3 undefeated guys all with at least 19 wins. Elam and Batista should go this weekend and of course Kerk beat Henderson at the All-Star dual, which doesn't "count." With the Big 12 having #2, #3, #5, #10 and #11 in Intermat's current rankings, does an undefeated Big 12 champ deserve the #1 seed at NCAAs?

It makes sense. I think I am just assuming if he is that good up a weight he could be a finalist contender at 174 (not beating Star, imo). To say it another way, if they decided at the beginning of the year he was going to go, it would probably of been at 174 and to wait unit after the last dual to decide and do it up at 184 seems like an odd decision. Especially considering Kennedy does not seem like a high AA threat at 174. I am not saying Iowa is doing anything wrong and Kennedy at 174 and Arnold at 184 is probably their best dual team, but I am not sure it is best for tournament scoring or for Arnold. But if he wants to go, then more power to him.

Then why would the decision be his alone? As @dragit mentioned there is no guarantee he AAs even if he keeps it close with Plott in the dual.

I don't think I understand the logic of burning his RS to wrestle up a weight. If he can beat Kennedy in the room and wants to go, shouldn't he have the chance at 174 or is Kennedy beating him? If he burns his RS it will be with 3 matches at 184. I am surprised Iowa coaches aren't taking a long term view with him. I think he is going to great and his team points might matter in 3-4 years.

Evey one knows the 1904 games have an asterisk due to the Russo-Japense war.

I would think only Bruce Baumgartner could make an argument against JB.

57- Spencer Lee 65 - Nick Lee 74 - Burroughs (It's a heart pick; Dake is the heads pick) 86 - Taylor 97 - Synder 125 - Kerk

I also pick Iowa to win the dual and place higher at NCAA but the answer to your question is the perception that Iowa is trending down and OSU is trending up. OSU coming off one of their worst NCAAs in the Smith era and does appear to be trending up. Yet to be seen how Iowa will finish but they haven't had back-to-back dual losses like PSU/Michigan in a long while.

Like sitting on the ankle in the top position? or did you mean the mat in general and not mat wrestling? I recall Truax being good on top at Cal Pol but I might of misunderstood the comment.