Dogbone

There will be alternates. In Cleveland, Jason Renteria missed weight and the alternate was on site and made weight. Forget if they redrew the bracket or not, I don't think they were seeding all the way to 33 so it may not have mattered. So there is no deadline but I would guess Shane at least makes weight and tries to give it a go. Carter is just drama for drama. I'm betting they will kiss and make up and he will be on top of the podium on Saturday night in PSU gear as usual. No clue on his seed tho.

He has gone head to head with JB and KNOWS how that goes. He doesn't have that same knowledge with the 65KG guys. The fact that he has tried twice before and is giving is a try again should tell you all you need to know. Pretty sure he knows what he has to do to make the Olympics and believes 65KG is his best chance.

Younger should be in this conversation.

I think the RTC/colleges should do what's best for their athletes. I am more curious about the USAW resources. Both Micic and Gomez repped USA at age level world championships. Presumably went to training camps and received USAW coaching. I don't care that Micic and Gomez wrestle for foreign countries or that Cliff Keen trains them, but I am not sure how I feel about USAW resources being used to beat American athletes. You raise a good question about fandom, were Michigan fans rooting for Gomez to beat Lee and prevent the US from an Olympic spot? That seems weird to me but I might be in the minority.

I believe they or their families had to defect from Cuba and can't go back. I don't think it is likely they rep Cuba, even if they want to

It is not fair or "right" but not everything in life is fair. If coaches start to manipulate the rule then they will change it like they did with MFF counting as loses now. It was being manipulated so they made a change. Even if Aaron Brooks is seeding 14th, who really suffers in a qualifier that is sending 7 or 8 guys? Sure the runner up would be different but 2nd and 3rd seeds would still qualify for NCAAs. The 2 seed would still only lose to Brooks (wouldn't hurt his NCAA seed) and the 2 and 3 seeds would just meet in the 3rd place match instead of the semis.

Is a great rule, probably not, but it is a rule and one that is not that hard for every other coach to follow. If Iowa wants to wait to determine their starters that is their choice but that doesn't mean the entire conference should change. I get they may have wanted to wait to see if a healthy Schriever was better than Teske but I don't know why you wouldn't just submit Teske as the entry since there was questions around Schriever.

If Starrocci forfeits out, then the winner of Washington/Sparks gets a pass to the semis. Wonder how Starocci will feel about forfeiting to Washington. Oddly, the loser of the Max Maylor/Baumann will then get a MFF into the top 8 and an NCAA bid.

I agree with this but my point is more about his plans than his ability to pull them off (more power to him if he can). Right now, he appears to plan on playing football for 5 years and wrestling for 5 years both part time. If he has any aspirations to play in the NFL (seems likely if he is sticking with football), his best interest would be to prepare for the draft process. Hopefully I am wrong and he pulls it off, wins a Natty his senior year and then gets drafted in the NFL.

It is not whether he will play a down in the NFL, but whether he wants to give it a chance. This year Iowa's Pro Day is March 18th. If he is going to give it a try then he will need to be preparing for the draft, including going to the Combine or doing the Pro Day which occur around the wrestling post season. My point is unless he plans to give up on the NFL, he is saving his RS for a year he won't be using it.

First, I have no issues if someone wants to pursue their dreams to make the Olympics and chooses the path of least resistance by competing for another country. And I will root for them when they are not competing against everyone except someone repping USA . But do USA wrestling resources aid these same competitors? Generally curious, if I donate to USA Wrestling does a portion of any of that go to the Cliff Keen RTC, which supports a lot of athletes competing for other countries? I don't know how the RTC funding works. What about coaches? Can Cael coach RBY and then switch to a USA shirt and later corner David Taylor at the same events? Hypothetical, but curious on everyone's thoughts.

Good to hear. I hope we get to see Angelo compete in college wherever it is.

Keep his RS for what? After his senior season of football, even if he isn't good enough to get invited to the Combine, if he wants to make an NFL roster he will need to train for pro days, interview with NFL teams, sign as undrafted free agent, etc. Unless he gives up on his NFL dreams, he won't be wrestling his RS senior year.

Is this true? Everyone talks about him like he is a boy scout, but he has also been a minor so not all information is public. He very well might be a good kid but is this belief because he doesn't have a public record or does he really help old ladies across the street every week. It wasn't until after AJ had won NCAAs that he ran into legal issues (that I am aware of), but if you listen to some of the Okie State stuff, it sounds like he was a distraction in the room. They don't arrest you for doing the splits/double bird to the home crowd but the AD didn't seem to enjoy it.

The problem with the current rule is guys back up all the way to the edge then circle in so they don't get hit. I get the concern regarding grounding but to me if you are first to step out of the inner circle and the first one out of bounds, I am fine with a pushout type rule. More times than not, no one really engages until they are half way out of bounds. If the action was started in the center guys would go out of bounds less.

Also the Soldier Solute champion with a "win" over a former National Champ! Probably a low AA to Rd 12 guy.

If he goes, I would hope he makes a firm commitment to compete at Olys. I would hate to see him win the spot and then back out again. I am tired of the will he/won't he drama. Hope the man figures outs what he wants to do with his life and pursues it 100%, whether its wrestling or WWE.

That stinks. Damn.

I get your point but who outside of maybe Ramos, who has shown he can drop an unexpected match, has shown a history of winning 5 straight matches? The way I look at 125 it is has a lot of parity and it is probably match-up dependent. You don't have to beat all 33, just the 5 that you hit in the tourney. For example, Smith may not be able to beat Volk but he might be able to beat a guy who can beat Volk.

I think he goes and still wins it but if making up a hypothetical PSU floor then, yes, that would be my assumption to create a floor.

You are being too harsh on him. His losses were to Cardinale, who AA'd and had Ramos on the ropes in the quarters and former AA Deagustino. I think you need to look at this way. Is anyone's ceiling above PSU's floor (not saying they will wrestle to their floor but the team race is such a non topic, its all we got). Initially I didn't think so but now admit it is possible despite it being very unlikely. Similarly, about 20 guys can win 125 and someone is going to have to win 5 in a row so it is possible.

KOT

Agree, since we were discussing the potential NCAA seeds, I didn't make that distinction in my mind. EDIT: My response was in regard to a seed situation. I realize there is also a ranking discussion occurring that may have caused confusion

No its not. If he beats Hamiti the top 4 seeds will likely be Carr, KOT, Ramirez and MM. If Carr wins Big 12s he will have a win over a top 4 seed and the same Hamiti win MM will have as B1G champ.

That isn't the same precedent and neither Hidlay nor Parker were undefeated. Parker and Hidlay split with Parker winning the 2nd match. All 3 had one loss. MM won't have a win over another top 4 guy. The Big 12 champ will. I am not saying it is how it will play out but it was not same.