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Keep in mind, gents... they don't have tk transfer in these 45 days, they just have to enter.

I would be interested in seeing comparable data. Meaning for 2019-2024 seeds 17+ all get valued as 17 as well.

Fish is small, man. Average 165 at best. Gilcher has been 74 KG, so I could see it. Could Lillard go up?

For me with Michigan it's Rylan Rogers. His best friends wrestle for Cal Poly and Purdue. Both have needs. I don't want him to go, though. For me with Michigan State is is Lujan or Fish.

Lillard and Gilcher both there, though.

I did say FWIW. I also did not out much stock in it.

I think because AB does it 4-5 times per sentence that it makes it seem like everyone else doesn't, ever - at all.

Carlson does own the series edge on Fish, FWIW.

Oklahoma had a Michigan guy ay the helm. They also have twp comparable guys in Cael Carlson and Nachohouse at 165lbs.

Speaking of Illinois... you're wrong. They have been treading water at about the same place the last four or five years... yes... but they did that this last year while utilizing a redshirt on no less that five (5) gents and one potential AA going down to injury (Luffman). With these gents back, I think they can do some damage next year. They'll certainly beat Wisconsin (with or without Bono... especially with, though). 125 - Ruzic (solid incoming Frosh cut from the same cloth as the Brawnagel brothers 133 - Byrd, Mid to High AA Contender 141 - Pucino, R12/R16 149 - Webster, Mid to High AA Contender 157 - Scoles, R12/R16 - Beat UNC's NQ Santiago 165 - Moore, R12/R16 - Surged late in the season 174 - Brawnagel, Mid to Low AA contender 184 - Ruth, Mid to High AA contender 197 - Brawnagel, Mid to High AA contender 285 - Luffman, Mid to Low AA contender Depending on how Ruzin can perform coming in (or maybe another redshirt frosh/transfer) you are looking at potentially 9 NQ type gents there that can win at least a match or two at NCAAs... some of them many more. Those sorts of lineups can be lethal in a dual setting. Now obviously these are optimistic and are not factoring in potential injuries, which do happen. All this said, believing that they are rock bottom is just silly and ignores the actual statistics available.

Best of both worlds for me. I would have been happy wherever he landed. He put his four years in as a Spartan. I am curious if he has aims to represent Mexico at 74 KG in the future...?

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/12377826-chase-saldate-announces-transfer-to-the-university-of-michigan

Saldate to Michigan

What? Listen, bud. I am not sure what you actually mean there. You're all over the place... using words that don't mean what they mean and trying to project to 'the people' like you some messiah of sorts... Come on, man. When you say 'good luck' you could mean something like 'I hope your nephson trips and knocks his head on some sort of petrified watermelon' or something else entirely random. Get with it, use words properly like a real human person, and try to speak (type) clearly and concisely. Everything will be okay.

That is wild that even with giving out the unseeded values at 17 that 2016 is the highest. Looking at that bracket again, and it is bonkers. https://i.turner.ncaa.com/sites/default/files/external/gametool/brackets/final-brackets-wrestling-2016.pdf

Make a call on what? You don't even know what you're talking about, man.

Yes I did. Perhaps you didn't read your own post(s).

I agree with everything you have said. As my signature says... the exception being Chance and Legend swapping. Legend is longer and all that, but Chance had said in a few interviews before when he was at Michigan that he had intended on going up to 157 once Lewan was gone. His MFS weight is also 70 KG (currently) so that would align up with those aspirations as well. Can't have Legend up at 165lbs again, we saw how that went.

Well your input is worthless, then.

Care to give us a breakdown as to how and why?

Chattanooga... Chattanooga...Chattanooga... Chattanooga had a very young roster last year and return basically everyone except Brayden Palmer and broke the ten win barrier for the first time in nearly ten years. Here is what their starters looked like this year... 125 - SR, 17W - 4L 133 - SO, 18W - 6L 141 - FR, 25W - 4L 149 - JR, 13W - 4L 157 - JR, 11W - 4L 165 - FR, 17W - 11L 174 - FR, 17W - 8L 184 - SO, 5W - 8L 197 - FR, 7W - 8L 285 - JR, 6W - 12L One thing to note is that I did leave the names off... that was deliberate. I wanted you to see the numbers as only numbers. Many of these gents were only a match away from qualifying and won two or three matches at their conference championships, as it were. Now 184 is deceiving in that the kid who ended the season started it at 157lbs, so some lineup shuffling and the weights will fall right in to place. Especially if they can get a transfer along the lines of a Rocky Jordan in. One of their redshirt frosh at 125 is a pinner, and that looks promising, especially in a dual sense, but they have two guys coming off redshirt that will be vying for the spot there as well as a two year starter returning to the lineup after being displaced by Palmer dropping. This lineup, with a replacement at 125 and perhaps a small shuffle in the 165-184 range, has potential to grow together and increase their peak wins, which is typical year after year. Those 17W should become low to mid 20s and those Ls should be about the same (assuming they qualify for NCAAs and take 2-3 losses there as well). I think this team could challenge both App State and Chattanooga, especially in a dual format (5 of their first 7 matches against Campbell were one takedown, close decision losses). I hope the coaching staff is out their shooting their shot with the likes of Billy Janzer (Rutgers 184/197), Kraisser (Iowa State ~157), Alvarez (OSU, Rutgers 141-165 ), and the two Navy 125lbers. They land two or even one of them, and that could provide the leadership needed to help with that next step next year.

Got someone else to follow - appreciate it. For those looking, OLD SCHOOL WRESTLING CLIPS:

I am not disputing any of that, really. Prevailing wisdom should dictate, though, that his #1 Assistant would not be a home run HC hire, right? Even if he had no say in anything, the indifference to the shit show in Wiscy is also not okay, right? I am trying to make sense of it because I actually want Reader to be a rockstar of a HC at CMU (if he gets the job) for the next 20-30 years.

Nope. I was sincere. I could have been mean. Words hurt, though, and I didn't want to be the one causing harm this fine evening. My response was deliberate. There was no pretending.