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I think it's cool Willie promotes his own stuff on the very forum that he saved from the trash heap at themat.com so we all could have a place to continue to discuss and banter. I'm guessing about 99% of us are okay with it.

One of his 6 years was a redshirt. He was finished in 2019 before COVID so that does not factor in. It does show 5 years of wrestling though. The only thing I can think of is that maybe he got a medical year it's not showing. Liberty is a D1 school, but wrestling was downgraded to club status in 2011 or 2012. So I am not sure if there are stipulations with the school being D1 but the program being club NWCA. Also, I am not sure if 2015 rules were different than today. https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/40240/diehl-ryan/profile

Thanks for the update... that's interesting. NCSA is usually pretty good with info. I had no clue some of those schools had wrestling. Some only have a handful on their roster. Well... 8 it is for Kansas.

I think those are member colleges. I believe 4 have wrestling programs https://www.ncsasports.org/mens-wrestling/junior-colleges

Don’t forget an oly redshirt….

I am with you man.... As another mid-tier team fan, it sucks.

My daughter ran track for the first time this year. I gave her the best coaching advice.... run faster. The most important ability for a wrestler is to wrestle really, really good.

Good point... I was looking at the other side of the spectrum at JC schools. I was surprised that Iowa had more JC schools with wrestling than any other state. Iowa has 6, Minnesota 5 and Kansas 4. This is outside of California of course, which has there own system of JC schools. Way more opportunities for kids in those states to wrestle and for D1 talent that needs a year to get grades and scores up in order to transfer (along with a myriad of other reasons).

Like many other tax ventures, and with dealing with high bankrolls, I am sure there will be some end arounds. " I would like to donate to the collective (wink wink)....but it sure would be nice to have ___________ in our lineup next year (wink wink)."

"Happy Birthday kids.... and if you're looking for a new car in 15 years, be sure to go to Joe's Used Cars.... welp... see ya."

It does make sense. Can the booster who is paying out for the NIL, write off the money as marketing for their business?

My apologies for being snarky...... Although Michigan is not "buying a title", their pickup of 4 AA including an NCAA champ is unprecedented. The idea that you can replace almost half your lineup with AA is mind boggling. This is an example of how a team can now buy their way into contention (not a title) and land a trophy. That was not going to happen otherwise. Even landing 2-3 AA as some teams have done is unprecedented. PSU didn't need it, but Iowa did to stay in trophy contention.

THey will happen much faster as well... might see more first round TF than we have ever seen.

I forgot all about this story... They best be getting things in order this summer before school starts.

That's a good question... He still could have gotten the 6 years with a redshirt and a COVID year.

Um.... I have no clue where you are getting that I believe that..... must be lost in translation somewhere along these last two pages... Your point is why I asked ""Post some examples about Stanford sports and them using NIL as an example of Stanford getting richer and being in contention for national titles as a result." ... because they are not - much the same as 90% of the teams. Could it happen down the road? Maybe. I guess we are agreeing on that???

Keeping track eh..... Don't try to hide it - haha.... remember when you said it was "Boise"? That's funny. I don't recall you ever actually saying what it was, but then again I don't read every post. For the sake of foregoing a 5th or 6th time of asking, what was your old board name?

It actually makes more sense that you are NJ Dan now that I think about it.... hmmm... switched your name from the last board..... refuses to talk about what your last name was on the last board......whereas I have always been Idaho as everybody on this board knows. . Hmm... interesting reverse psychology try there. Anyway.... Yeah we don't have as many huge donors as a lot of schools.... and as far as wrestling we have zero national titles in recent years....which is kind of the point in full circle.....

Great comeback? Good Ol'....? Wait what was your name on the old board before we switched? As a side note, are you an Iowa guy?

You clearly did not attend Clackamas Community College.... collectives are new to most universities. Oregon State put together a collective last summer but the university as whole did not really get it going until last fall with the DAM Nation Collective.

You disagree with me agreeing with you... sounds good...but nope, they are getting a redshirt just like every other wrestler outside of the Ivies. Their level of education doesn't matter... and if anything probably makes it a harder life in general to stay on top of things verses an Iowa for example. I also hear that Stanford, Penn and Cal Poly are pretty good degrees.

This is a university wide effort, i.e collective.... most school have them (if not all by now). Keep trying though. As a side note, this really isn't really an example of my question: "Post some examples about Stanford sports and them using NIL as an example of Stanford getting richer and being in contention for national titles as a result."

Post some examples about Stanford sports and them using NIL as an example of Stanford getting richer and being in contention for national titles as a result.

Haha.... Patrick Glory was certainly okay with just winning a conference championship. Yep, he jus put himself on par with the rest of the country.

Yeah I agreed and already said that.... "sure.... only applies to Ivies"