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I see the dim-witted 3rd grader is still busy making it clear that he is the epitome of the image he chooses to include in his posts. That's a bold strategy Cotton. https://youtu.be/4Ru8DMW-grY

I think it's great that they allow dim-witted 3rd graders to post here.

I would think that either ASU or Little Rock (or both) will produce a story on this dual sometime between now and next Friday. Maybe the lineups for each team will be detailed then. I don't expect Figueroa will be in the lineup (probably Mascarenas at 125 for ASU) and I would think Ruiz will be in the lineup for ASU at 165 rather than Wilner.

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Absolutely. I'm not suggesting that Little Rock WILL beat Arizona State. After all WrestleStat's dual comparison's predicitons are usually worse then the nightly weatherman's predictions.

I don't know the answers to your smart-alec questions here but IF Little Rock does, in fact, beat Arizona State next Friday it would be the first time they have beaten a PAC 12 wrestling team that isn't named Cal State University at Bakersfield. Little Rock has beaten CSUB twice in the 4 1/2 years since they started their wrestling team. But CSUB is the ONLY PAC 12 wrestling team that Little Rock has defeated in those 4 1/2 years.

According to the WrestleStat dual comparison feature they show Little Rock will defeat Arizona State 17-16 and that's with ASU's Richard Figueroa starting at 125 lbs. He hasn't competed since Dec. 29th at the Midlands tournament where he was injured. https://www.wrestlestat.com/compare/dual/4/arizona-state/1301/little-rock

I signed in with Sling and it doesn't allow me to watch it. F#$# Stanford.

You're right. In the past this was always available on the Stanford website as a live stream. But CLEARLY they have changed the way they do things to make it even more maddening than it has been in the past. I subscribe to Sling TV which is supposed to have the PAC 12 networks and I can't see a way to watch this.

You don't have access to the Stanford wrestling website? That's where this will be shown. https://pac-12.com/wrestling/event/2024/01/10/missouri-stanford P.S. ALL COMPLAINTS about Stanford's live-stream of this should go where they belong - to Stanford.

I'm looking at my PAC 12 channel guide for tonight and the PAC 12 streaming channel for the Bay Area has a REPLAY of the WOMEN'S basketball game between Washington and Stanford scheduled for 5:30 p.m. PT thru 7 p.m. PT today - just as it did early this morning and yesterday. There is nothing on any of the PAC 12 streaming channels for any PAC 12 wrestling events for today. I also searched Sling TV (which is what I use to get the PAC 12 channels) and the ONLY NCAA wrestling listed on Sling TV (other than two Big 10 matches later this month) is the Penn State at Oregon State from last week.

Yes. It always has been in the past. Whether there will be any audio or announcers remains to be seen.

The dual is supposed to start at: 6 p.m. Pacific 7 p.m. Mountain 8 p.m. Central 9 p.m. Eastern I'm just hoping they will have some audio this time. The last few times I've tried to watch the Stanford Live stream there was video but no audio at all.

Missouri fans especially should take notice of the start time as Missouri has this listed on their wrestling schedule as beginning at 4 p.m. CT (which would be 2 p.m. PT) https://mutigers.com/sports/wrestling/schedule Wednesday's Probable Matchups 125: #12 Nico Provo (STAN) vs. #9 Noah Surtin (MIZZOU) 133: #21 Tyler Knox OR Dom LaJoie (STAN) vs. #31 Kade Moore (MIZZOU) 141: #28 Jason Miranda (STAN) vs. #21 Josh Edmond OR Zeke Seltzer (MIZZOU) 149: #11 Jaden Abas (STAN) vs. #29 Logan Gioffre (MIZZOU) 157: #6 Daniel Cardenas (STAN) vs. #10 Brock Mauller (MIZZOU) 165: #28 Hunter Garvin (STAN) vs. #1 Keegan O’Toole (MIZZOU) 174: #21 Lorenzo Norman OR Tye Monteiro (STAN) vs. #6 Peyton Mocco (MIZZOU) 184: Jack Darrah (STAN) vs. #11 Clayton Whiting (MIZZOU) 197: #17 Nick Stemmet (STAN) vs. #3 Rocky Elam (MIZZOU) 285: Peter Ming (STAN) vs. #6 Zach Elam (MIZZOU) This dual match can be watched online on the Stanford Live Stream here: https://pac-12.com/wrestling/event/2024/01/10/missouri-stanford It will NOT be televised on the PAC 12 Bay Area TV channel (they have a replay of a basketball game scheduled for that time slot) Live STATS are also available here: https://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/seasons/MainFrame.jsp?TIM=1704890865044&twSessionId=jvqytaovgp&loadBalanced=true&pageName=%2Ftw%2Fseasons%2FDualMatches.jsp

Truax and Munoz have faced each other six times in college (after last night's match). Truax won the first four of those six matches against Munoz. The fifth time Munoz pinned Truax and last night (the 6th time) Truax lost by decision. So I'd say - if anything - Truax showed improvement over his last match against Munoz.

Arizona State was without three starters (assuming Ruiz is now the starter at 165) and Iowa State was without two starters. Even if ASU had all of their starters in the lineup it's doubtful if they would have won that dual. Especially with both Teemer and Schultz losing their matches.

You are incorrect when you wrote "they had no other choice". That is simply false. They had the choice of staying in the PAC 12 with Oregon State and Washington State. IF they had stayed the course they would be sharing in the 2023-2024 PAC 12 revenue that Oregon State and Washington State will be enjoying for years to come. Instead they made the moronic choice to triple their travel expenses and compete against schools literally on the other side of the United States (I bet the parents of the athletes are thrilled about that - NOT). Keep in mind that the "leaders" at Stanford are the same group of ivory towered dimwits who wanted to eliminate about one third of their athletic teams just a few years ago.

What I would like to see is eight of the Division I wrestling schools come together and form their own eight team wrestling conference. Namely these eight wrestling programs: Air Force Cal Poly San Luis Obispo Cal State University - Bakersfield Northern Colorado Oregon State Stanford Utah Valley Wyoming And the Big 12 would still have Arizona State Iowa State Missouri North Dakota State Northern Iowa Oklahoma State South Dakota State West Virginia With Oklahoma heading to the S.E.C. does Oklahoma wrestling remain in the Big 12?

And at the risk of appearing to be sexist - now that the MWC commissioner is a female my comment that I see no way on Earth that the MWC adds wrestling - is even more likely to be correct.

Your suggestion here that the 4 remaining PAC 12 schools could grab teams from the Mountain West Conference is not feasible because of the gigantic exit fees that the former MWC commissioner instituted as he left that job. NOW if a MWC team wants to leave the MWC they face exit fees up to 34 MILLION dollars. No MWC team is going to pay that gigantic exit fee to go to a conference that is a mere shell of what it once was. Or to a conference that has no TV plan in place for 2024, etc. It would be insanity to do that. The more logical plan would be for the 4 remaining PAC schools to join the MWC - but I don't see Stanford ever doing that. I'm a lifelong wrestling fan but I see no way on Earth that the MWC adds wrestling as a sport. None - zip - zilch - NADA.

Where does Charlie Darracott fit in Stanford's lineup for next season? Darracott wrestled Cardenas three times last season and lost those three matches by a total of 7 points. Does he move up to 165 lbs? If Eischens does not sign with another school for next season does he have the option of returning to the Stanford lineup? If he does sign with another school for next season who is likely to succeed him in the Stanford lineup at 174 lbs? I would think Lorenzo Norman might be a possibility as a true freshman.

WrestleStat is now listing Chance McLane (formerly of Oklahoma State) as a member of Arizona State's wrestling team for next season. I hadn't seen or heard anything on that myself. Flo Wrestling transfer tracker does not show him as going to ASU. https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/10776671-2023-ncaa-d1-wrestling-off-season-transfer-tracker

Another one of Stanford's best has entered the transfer portal. That being Tyler Eischens (174 lbs). Ranked # 22 on WS. Griffith being the other Stanford guy in the TP.

According to this article (below) Aaron Nagao has narrowed his transfer schools down to three schools and Penn State is the first school listed here - probably because it's a Penn State website. So don't read too much into that. But the three schools mentioned here are Penn State, Cornell and Iowa. https://www.on3.com/teams/penn-state-nittany-lions/news/penn-state-wrestling-makes-top-two-for-transfer-portal-target-chris-cannon/ What sort of a meltdown is going to occur to the Iowa fans if Nagao chooses Penn State or Cornell over Iowa? This article also quotes Nagao as saying he will make his decision by the end of this month. And that's just one week away now.

Not trying to rain on your parade here but seeing as Truax visited Penn State earlier this week it would seem more likely he's headed to PSU than ASU.