TylerDurden

Who is?

Vito's length is one thing...but he's fast, too

RBY is in big trouble

Vito looks huge next to RBY

Princeton having a good day. Hoops and a natty.

RBY or Vito? I'm never picking against RBY. He has a gear most don't.

Yeah. TV dictates the timing,the NCAA says,"okay."

I'm on board. He's been superb.

Parris was the best heavyweight this year, well deserved title.

I generally like JB's commentary, but he's got to get the names correct. This is the biggest title most of these guys will ever get a shot at, get their names right.

Will Kerk have that PSU finals adjustment or will Parris beat him again?

Eh. It's his choice. He has nothing to prove. Congratulations on a great career, Spencer.

The thing is, you don't fire John Smith. He has to retire. The AD should give him a nudge in that direction, but you still let him go out on his own terms (kinda). Who replaces him? I don't think you'll have a shortage of candidates who can perform at the same level they've been at recently and who want that job. Pendleton? Cunningham? It is tough to follow a legend.

If Mason Parris wins, he's got to be right there. I think he's been the most dominant of the contenders. RBY, Starocci, Carr, Yanni all likely in the mix as well. Yanni seems like it would be a career achievement award, but I wouldn't be made at that. A four-timer is a four-timer.

If only they had Ferrari.

Wanted to recognize a few guys who sacked up and worked their way through the consolation bracket: 133: Jesse Mendez, Ohio State: Beat Zaccone (Camp), Ragusin (Mich), Byrd (Ill.) and Latona (VT) after dropping a second round match to McGee - who he'll see again tomorrow in the consi semifinal. Great run. Good true freshman season. 141: Clay Carlson, SDSU: Beat Ervin (SIUE), Happel (UNI), Hart (Mizzou), and Filius (Purdue) after losing to Bartlett in round two - who he'll see again tomorrow. 141: Dylan D'Emilio, Ohio State: Beat Cook (VT), Mattin (Mich), Matthews (Pitt) before falling to McNeil (UNC). Will see Filius (Purdue) for 7/8. Honestly, he was super close to knocking off Woods and has had a good tournament. 149: Caleb Henson, Virginia Tech: Beat Lovett (CMU), Zapf (Penn), Thomas (NW), and Mauller (Mizzou). Will face Van Ness (PSU) tomorrow in the consi semi. Good rebound for the freshman after Rooks took him out. 157: Ed Scott, NC State: Beat Pappas (GMU), Jacques (Mizzou), Cardenas (Stanford), and Andonian (VT) after dropping a bout to Lewan. Will get Humphreys (Lehigh) in the consi semi. 197: Jacob Warner, Iowa: After falling to Elam, he knocked off Bockman (UVU), Trumble (NC State), Allred (Neb), and Cardenas (Cornell) to set up another bout with Elam. 197: Max Dean, PSU: Following his loss to Allred, he beat: Hoffman (Ohio State), Harvey (Oregon St.) and Smith (Maryland) before dropping a SV decision to Truax. He'll go for 7/8.

Lots of credit to him, too. Could have easily packed it up and went to BBQ. He's done well in the consis.

Glory's not gaming anything. I don't think he will beat Spencer, but his size might help. On the flip side, he has to make weight three times and managing his weight for a few days straight isn't simple and could work against him. It works both ways - especially at 125 where you wrestle first without much recovery time. If they meet, I think Spencer gets bonus and rides off into the sunset as a four-time champion.

No.

Vegas favorites aren't always the true favorite. They post lines to create action. Make no mistake, RBY is the favorite on the mat.

Glad you were able to clarify your fandom. It was hard to tell from your screen name.

Orine has better cumulative wins than Byrd. Orine has wins over: No. 9 seed Phillipi 2x (who beat Byrd) No. 16 Biscoglia No. 6 Latona Byrd's best wins are No. 25 Henson, No. 13 Cannon and No. 12 Ragusin - no wins over anyone seeded ahead of him. In fact, Byrd doesn't really have a strong resume for seeding purposes. Didn't see No. 1 RBY, lost to No. 14 Mendez, lost to No. 7 Colaiocco, and lost to No. 8 Nagao

Every time a topic like this appears on a forum, it should remind everyone how challenging it really is to create, interpret and apply rules. It's actually one of the primary reasons all NCAA sports review their rules so frequently. We'll always be able to find things that don't match the letter of the law in a sport like wrestling. You can make arguments for just about anything. Coaches and wrestlers will find the loophole.

Going through this, I was surprised that there were only two weights I hesitated at all to pick a winner: 141 and 197. For me, the other eight weights had clear favorites. Wt. - Winner, School - Confidence (10 being most confident) 125 - Spencer Lee, Iowa (10) - I don't see anyone in the field who can beat him. 133 - Roman Bravo Young, Penn State (8) - There are a couple of potential landmines in Fix and Vito, but they're on the other side of the bracket. 141 - Andrew Alirez, Northern Colorado (2) - Pretty low confidence in this pick, but not because of Alirez and his talent. Woods is definitely a contender (and perhaps the true favorite) and there have been close matches among the top seeds in this weight. I could see this bracket going crazy, despite two unbeaten wrestlers. 149 - Yanni Diakomihalis, Cornell (9) - Despite the early loss to Gomez, I can't see anyone clipping Yanni. 157 - Austin O'Connor, North Carolina (6) - O'Connor got a pretty good draw, IMO. Not much in his path to the final, whereas the bottom half is much more competitive. Lewan might keep the score close, and Franek could do the same, but those scores will be lying to you as AOC cruises into the final. 165 - David Carr, Iowa State (4) - Crazy bracket at 165. To me, Carr is the clear favorite, but I can't feel too confident when you have this amount of quality in the field. 174 - Carter Starocci, Penn State (7) - This is a battle for second between Lewis and Labriola. Starocci is on his way to being one of the best ever 184 - Aaron Brooks, Penn State (3) - I should have Brooks higher on my confidence ranking, because I think he's a top 5 NCAA wrestler, but I can't ignore Hidlay and Keckeisen. Brooks is better than both, but likely will have to beat both to win. 197 - Nino Bonaccorsi, Pitt (1) - Nino is the default pick as the No. 1 seed, but I don't have any confidence in this. Dean/Allred are 8/9 - both could beat Nino. 197 is not for the faint of heart. Wouldn't be surprised to see any of these guys win: Nino, Dean, Allred, Beard, Laird, Elam, Warner (yes, Warner), Trumble, Sloan, Cardenas, Truax. HWT - Mason Parris, Michigan (5) - Parris is healthy this year and looks fantastic...BUT...there are guys in this field who can beat him and based on that, I give Parris a 50/50 shot at a title.

I feel really bad for Lee. He was (is) a great wrestler, but injuries have made him a shell of his former self. Does he have another year of eligibility? A change of scenery might do him well. Indiana, perhaps?