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For real though. The way DC and JB creamed over the new scoring. I feel like next year its going to be 6pt takedowns 10pt nearfall and 3pt pushout I kid, a bit. 1pt push out would be EVERYTHING. It'd be more of a game-changer than the Heil rule

Feel like this is a yearly debate immediately after NCAA's. (I've always been on the side of the pushout rule for Folk it's real real gross how we play the edge, I complained last night and my wife said "So he's cheating, why would you stand on the side to keep anyone from scoring?"..... I was like its not technically cheating but its another reason we need a pushout point) Also the second yearly debate comes up right after trials. When a "New to Freestyle" fan, has their favorite wrestler get laced or can't roll directly to their back or loses on criteria.... Freestyle is now dumb and the world should conform to folk. Finally at the Olympics (Or worlds) when somebody get crunched round 1, the folkstyle fans tuning in for the Olympics will still complain about the scoring BUT........ now there is a glaring conspiracy to have a USA athlete "Travel so far" and "work so hard" only to get one match! "Forget that, we need full wrestle-backs, because I, as a folkstyle fan, only know that format and we are the greatest country in the world so we must make others conform. Heck Freestyle doesnt even give you time to work. How can a guy get any mat returns when the other guy just lays there. Thats Stalling if you ask me. That guys just holding center if you want to be honest. Our American guy has faked as least 10 shot attempts and that other guy isn't even moving all that much. I know its 6-1 for the other guy but he has literally 0 shot fakes. ITS BULLSH*T!" I Italiansized that fake quote, Im becoming a whiz on this here computer.

Man MitchMes is good. Also, happy for Carr there was confusion on the score. That booger blocking his breathing really slowed him down

Kudiev even has a win over Bajrang. He's tough. But I get it, you will argue to the death.

Yeah so the second match was to Kudiev who is tough. And I dont think James G is an olympic medalist. But I think Mamedov is that quality, and losing to the guy that just teched him, isn't the worst thing. Yes JG isn't remotely close to an Olympic medal. but also Yes JG looked less than helpless in his first event down at 65kg in while. *I expected worse

Soooooo Kudiev beat Tobier at last years worlds and barely lost to Tevanyan (who we all know got upset by Seabass) so he didnt get a chance at bronze. In this tournament he TECHED Mamedov to start (who is clearly one of the best wrestlers in the world) that alone elevates him to "not a slouch" in my book As far as Aghayev goes? Yeah, he's newer to the scene with limited results, but he was a finalist who also beat Kudiev.... good tournament

he didn't lose to slouches though https://cdn.uww.org/2024-03/results_03_antalya.pdf

Why do I like Retherford as the most "dependable" to qualify the weight? Is that what you're asking? I mean we will send whoever is the rep, but I would have the most confidence in him. I think he's always been pretty consistent, but these last couple years, I think he's turned a corner. Not wrestling close matches, getting separation, beating the best 70kg guys. I just think he has the best shot.

57 Kilogram 1. Bekzat Almaz Ulus (Kyrgyzstan) 2. Nachyn Mongush (Independent Athlete) 3. Almaz Smanbekov (Kyrgyzstan) 3. Bekbolot Uulu Myrzanazar (Kyrgyzstan) 65 Kilogram 1. Ulukbek Zholdoshbekov (Kyrgyzstan) 2. Musa Aghayev (Azerbaijan) 3. Mohammad Mehdy Montana Palangvar ( Iran ) 3. Abdulmazhid Kudiev (Tajikistan) 74 Kilogram 1.Jordan Ernest Burroughs(Amerika) 2. Magomet Evloev (Tajikistan) 3.Magomedrasul Shakban Asluev(Bahreyn) 3. Orozobek Toktomambetov (Kyrgyzstan) 86 Kilogram 1. Hadi Bakhtiar Vafaeipour (Iran) 2.Bat Erdene Byambasuren(Moğolistan) 3. Bobur Islomov (Uzbekistan) 3. Yudai Takahashi (Japan) 97 Kilogram 1.Akhmed Magomed Tazhudinov(Bahreyn) 2.Jonathan Leonard Aiello(Amerika) 3. Radu Lefter (Moldova) 3. Rizabek Aitmukhan (Kazakhstan) ·

Jordan's match

According to the Cavalier Wrestling club: Jay Aiello to the finals at yasar dogu in Turkey! Wrestling against 97 kg World Champ from Baran. Nice. Wish results were easier to find

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Pennsylvania RTC @pennsylvaniartc Jordan wins 5-1 over Toktomambeto of Kazakhstan to move on to the finals of the Yasar Dogu! He’ll have Rassadin of Tajikistan.

Another twitter result worth noting Abdulmazhid Kudiev shocks Shamil Mamedov and beats him 10-0 Notable because Mamedov has seemed unbeatable and Kudiev could be a another potential roadblock at 65kg out of that Asian qualifier

From Twitter (going to look for other people's results) Jordan won 9-2 over Murat of Azerbaijan in the preliminary round Jordan wins 8-1 over Ozmus of Turkey and will have Toktomambeto of Kazakhstan in the semi-finals.

I think you're onto something with this one

I think those are the 2022 results but I like it either way!

Incentive is a strong factor. In the event a weight isn't qualified if you added some WTT Advancement for the person that qualified the weight. Basically as if they're a returning medalist. Maybe that would get all eligible athletes to care. Maybe not. 20k bonus for anyone that qualifies a weight, from worlds or from pan ams. Eh theres a million ideas, but I bet USAW is well ahead of us. They'll fix it up for next cycle.

I didn't read most of the comments, cause they're awful. But... so obviously first criteria was: "Be the world team rep from the previous year".... which really feels an all encompassing competition that adequately reflects pecking order at the weight. Secondly: (Stole this from an old @Wrestleknownothing post citing the rules) may be repeated in this post but here. "This year USAW altered their criteria to determine who to send to the Continental Qualifier. Rather than automatically send the World Team member at the weight they have the following allowance for challenges: A senior world medalist, at any weight, within years (2019-2023) will be given the opportunity to challenge the 2023 Senior World Team Member for the spot. a. If there is more than one challenger in a weight, there will be a single elimination tournament to determine who will challenge the 2023 World Team Member. b. There will be a best of three series between the 2023 Senior World Team Member and the challenger to determine who will earn the spot. For men's freestyle this only potentially affects 57kg and 65kg." Man this seems REALLLLLLLLLLY INCLUSIVE and fair and at 65kg we had a match. at 57kg Gilman, Fix, and Vito all had the option to challenge and did not. What more do you want brother

Yeah I agree there's basically no shot at making the team and if thats what makes it worthwhile, just retire, but if he's going to compete with the intention of giving himself the "best" shot at making the Olympics. 65kg feels like 5% 74kg feels like a true 0% I hope he shows out in his last rodea and does something strange JO style. But.... I'll guess he wins his opening bout against somebody random like Kaleb Larkin, and then loses to a top-dog and thats that. GREAT CAREER

Dude... How ridiculous are people. This is David Taylor 6.0 From fans to athletes. Everything is fine until I lose. Until my guy loses. Until I don't get the result I desired. OVERHAUL THE SYSTEM to where my preferred rep, does nothing to earn the spot, and wrestles people he could beat. Oh he lost to Columbia well they're a well known drug country and I dont think the PAN AMS should support DRUGS, We should lobby to have them kicked out. ITS F*CKING WILD, ieqrbighqejhgilqehg2iegbweilgb2eigbeqk I hate how "GOOD OLE BOY 'MERICA" my community is

Just going to post this here for my international brethren. I crap on my wife's son, I guess my step-son , all the time for not getting out in the real-world and doing real things. (Kids a gamer who can't bench 80lbs at 17years old.) But I have to admit, sitting online and talking nonsense with a bunch of water-heads all day about whether wrestler A is superior to wrestler B based on who stepped out with 4 seconds left in the match, brings me entirely too much joy.

Chamizo was the ultimate weight cutter, but has learned his abilities translate as he just gets bigger and bigger. He's never going to be huge for any weight, he's just supremely talented. The other posters who have referenced how far Green knows he is from the 74kg guys like Dake and Burroughs. Are saying what I believe is the truth. He knows he just doesn't have the attributes to compete higher than 70kg. Whether it's height, weight, mental hurdles, whatever I don't feel like it's speculation. I mean his ENTIRE LIFE since college has been FS wrestling, most of which, training with the World Champ. I know we like to fancy ourselves wrestling geniuses, but if he was smoking 74kg guys in the room when he wasn't cutting or trying to bulk.... I think we'd see members of the USA Wrestling staff and his personal coaches pushing for him to move up in weights. I'm sure he doesn't like killing himself with a weight cut. He has however, wrestled very close matches, or beaten, many of the top 65kg guys when they've attempted to bump. I think if he can control the physical hurdles of moving down (Which I'm guessing he has a grip on) I think you're going to be surprised by how he competes. But also at 31, and taking a year or so off.... maybe he just doesn't have it anymore. But going where you're most confident, may have a little strength advantage, know the competition well, for your LAST SHOT EVER of making an Olympic team. Seems more enticing then coming out of "retirement" to hope for the opportunity to get Dake Bombed, or blast doubled by your old training partner, but more realistically lose to a number of up and comers in the earlier rounds. I can't formulate a realistic argument that moving up would be the superior move.

65kg is the big question mark. There will undoubtedly be 2-3 wrestlers in the bracket we will not be favored to beat. (Obviously we have talent and can beat just about anyone who hasn't qualified on any given day) 65kg will be really really really draw dependent. And if its not Zain (Save for Destribats), I feel like everyone at the weight has a head-scratcher of a close match each time out. If it comes to qualifying the weight. Despite his previous fiasco. I like him to do it. We'll see who the rep is and hold our breath. 57kg the weight seems deeper than it is. Micic, Japan (probably Higuchi), Hartutyunyan, Abakarov, Uguev, are all qualified. You should see 4 of Iran, Kaz, India, China, Mongolia, Uzbek which are clearly the biggest hurdles, and catching one or 2 of them with a bad draw, could be our undoing. They all have very competent reps. But I feel like we have some of the top guys in the world with a shot at world finalist on the right day . So I would favor us against anyone, but obviously we can lose. 65kg to qualify I'll say 35% 57kg to qualify give me 65%