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I'm with you and am on the record at the old watering hole that 2020 worlds and 2021 worlds were mickey mouse titles. that will always have asterisks. But it's not going to change anytime soon unless there is significant global political change a la Russia withdrawing from war with Ukraine.

Zahid is going to continue competing for the USA. It is his brother Anthony Valencia who is pursuing an opportunity with the Mexico national team - he was on tap to wrestle at Pan Ams for MEX before paperwork came into play late in the game. Anyone have any ideas where that stands at this point?

Other than Russia and Belarus being excluded for pretty obvious reasons like expediting the globe into a recession via war, who didn't show up to worlds two months ago?

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Click here to watch on FloWrestling and hope there are no outages Look at brackets here WFS and Greco today, MFS tomorrow Surprising MFS entries for me are Nick Lee - why is he here when qualified for WTT? Cody Chittum - intriguing glimpse, Isaiah White, Bajrang at 79, Gwiz (he's definitely OP at this tourney), and one Morgan McIntosh.

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wtf are you talking about? Nicky+2 is the best 57 in the country. We lost Zain in that vicious tornado in September #RIP. Dake is too young for UWW requirements. Taylor's hairline is busy training for Veteran's worlds. Kevin Jackson told Cox that he had an extra 15 minutes to submit his acceptance later so that's on USAW.

I had no clue that Micic was eligible for 11.3% of the history of the NCAA tournament. That is a useless trivia stat if I have ever seen one and I anxiously wait over the next 7 years to see if anyone can meet or beat that number!

Micic averaged three tourney matches annually (24 matches over 8 years)

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Someone give me the longshot odds for a Gomez pin. I haven't thrown away money since powerball last week.

The underlying premise to solve is that football and men's basketball wholly subsidize ours and other non-revenue (read: olympic) sports. We all have to share the same playground and it leads to inequities that will never have solutions that everyone walks away happy with. If FB and BB go away, what happens to non-revenue sports? How does this help the growth of the sport instead of concentrating a cumulatively smaller participation group? If they stay but FB and BB get different participation rules, then someone WILL take them to court and they most likely win. This would very likely lead to scenario #1 If they stay and FB and BB keep the same participation rules, then we maintain the current status quo. This is the most likely scenario for the next 10-ish years It's like the phrase goes: you can only hope to please some of the people some of the time.

Taylor decided a healthy ACL was more important than 5 grand. Not sure about Dake though because those red lens blue blockers are really getting up there in price due to inflation.

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I gave you a great current example. Plenty of others in this thread. Do you want to dive into the examples of who took a football scholarship or skipped college athletics because the opportunity did not exist? If so, then start with every 195 and 220 and 285 state placer and subtract the number of available college opportunities. Now give a multiplier of NCAA wrestlers who bump up because 2 pounds from high school the end of college is quite a bit. That group # is your napkin math delta. But I am asking a very serious question, and I am asking with genuine empathy: why are we fighting this proposed growth as a sport that is fighting for growth?

Also, what about that kid from Iowa? What’s his name? You probably know it since you do rankings and such. I think he’s doing some other sport… is it rugby?

Is Snyder not the best example possible? What about fellow 2x world champion and HS 220 and 285 J’Den Cox. What about the other examples provided in this thread? I was simply trying to provide an example other than “hurr durr look at the glaring exception to the rule” in Snyder, but as a 103 did you not feel the same restrictions with regards to next level opportunities?

They said the same thing about women's wrestling and now that is the fastest growing sport. And since my grasp on economics is lacking, do you want to ask how my F list leading technology company is rolling like a Narikuni ankle lace when everyone else looks like Zain during this downturn?

And I'm seriously saying that if you give more opportunities then more positions will open up. I'm not trying to fight but I am fighting for what I believe in. I don't care about the 4th string D3 149 pounder. I do care about losing a varsity 220 D1 because we are too worried about current numbers instead of future potential. Call it, ahem, INCLUSIVENESS.

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Soooo are you going to open the betting so I can get in before the line moves?

I'm saying add more between 197 and 285. It is my opinion that the above logic is not seeing the forest for the trees. Fewer opportunities = lower participation from a prospect group. If this were a business case, I would say there is an unrepresented group and there is an easy solution to fill a gap with a 5x growth potential.

If I knew that I wouldn't be getting a football scholarship because I'm not big or fast enough or plain old good enough, but there was a viable alternative in wrestling what do you think I would pursue? As an example, John Wise spent his freshman year at the world-reknowned perennial football powerhouse Western Illinois. Then he transferred to Illinois where he became an all-american heavyweight. He wrestled 215 in high school, then bulked up his senior year because there were football scholarships to a number of schools but none for wrestling. Why? Because he was too big for 197 and too small for 285 according to coaches, and a scholarship is a scholarship so he went the football route because that was his only option. If he had a wrestling option perhaps he would have made a different decision.

But that is my point. There are fewer opportunities of advancement, so fewer heavier athletes compete. It's a snake biting its tail.

pssst... I took the world FS weights and rounded up to the next pound.