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¿Porque no los dos?

Lack of testicular fortitude?

If wishes and buts were candy and nuts then we’d all have a good Christmas. Enough making excuses for Gilman. He’s a professional multi-time world medalist. If he had a bad cut then he has no one to blame but himself. No. Excuses. Richards is the same age, made the same weight, and beat him two times in a row including the second match 6-7 hours after weigh-ins.

Umm, have you seen the Russian expat landscape the last decade? Or Chanizo, Micic, Amine?

Especially if they remain fans of the sport once in the position.

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Did Anthony Valencia compete at MEX nattys in March? I only saw the pic of Gomez and was unable to find brackets, etc.

“Chili” from Cincinnati

Oh wow would you look at that... another greco national dual title. And at least one more Final X competitor is in this picture - the only questions are who and when?

Emphasis on breakdowns

This sport is proud to be poor. Weird because just like hockey, the best are anything but. Reminds me a lot of my tiny rural hometown where dreams go to die. Except those of us who left and excelled. There is nothing wrong with having increasingly higher expectations once a foothold has been established. There is a problem with mediocrity and accepting mediocrity as not only a baseline, but an acceptable norm. For example, if I got 6th in state would I be happy doing that year in and year out? Because Flo is consistently an underachieving state placer when it should be competing for Fargo titles with dreams to compete for world titles. Sure, it gets the tournaments (beating the state champ during the season) but it can't actually broadcast for crap (dropping a match in the second round) and then expects the customers to just take it (dropping another match in the consi semis). FloWrestling is Marinelli incarnate.

Or maybe there is a federal lawsuit a la the "Michigan State and Larry Nassar violations." Remember, that case went from 0-100 publicly in a matter of hours. Not weeks, not days, hours. There is potential for the same given the level of allegations against Voldemort et al. Time will tell.

Look everyone knows This is ten percent luck Twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure Fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name Dummies

And today our pipe dream is significantly higher with 10 medal match appearances / 8 medals / 4+ golds. It won't happen but the mental justification is very easy to achieve - especially with no Russia or Belarus. 57 Richards makes a medal match appearance after taking out the reigning silver medalist 61 Arujau wrestles for a medal because he's ascending and we have rose-colored glasses and non-olympic weight the year before OLYs 65 Lee is a favorite to medal because he just took out the reigning silver medalist 70 Zain has been bumped up to gold match favorite since the reigning world champ jumped ship to greco 74 Dake repeats as world champ 79 Marstellar just took out the reigning world champ 86 Taylor is again the gold favorite 92 Zahid makes a medal match appearance because in our minds being a very close 3rd on the 86 ladder in the US is still better than most of the world at 86 or 92 97 Snyder is the prohibitive gold favorite 125 Steveson is the gold favorite, again due to rose-colored glasses stemming from a tournament two years ago

Agreed... I just think of "vet" as 2 or more. Then again, he's been going to worlds for approximately the past 12 years and I've gone zero times so I should not considered a SME.

No because Zane Richards would have beaten him too

Richards had to take out a multi-time world medalist and as a result of two consecutive, decisive wins only caught a little more shade from Basch because surely it was the weight cut rather than talent. Hard to root against that. Arujau settled the debate once and for all by taking The Leap against someone who believes the earth is flat. Modern Day Sir Isaac Newton if you ask me. Lee is competing at historically our weakest weight by taking out a half human- half challenge brick hybrid monster. How can you not root for him? Zain overcame a particularly challenging case of AssBergers. Talk about a success story. Dake has reversed aging. Only a fool would root against a medical miracle. Marstellar just beat an all-time great by bending space/time and successfully completing a throw out of bounds. Every team should be so lucky to have a quantum physics marvel. Taylor has sacrificed his hair line for his scrambling. He's by far the most humble champ I have ever encountered and his attitude says it all. Zahid has overcome so much - consistently getting beat at every weight he goes, fun weekends in Rome, cosplaying as the Stay-Puft Marshmellow Man etc. How can you not cheer for him? Snyder discovered the secret of dismantling Russian tanks to accomplish his goal of most world titles in a career. I cannot wait to see where his geopolitical career goes next. Steveson is so powerful that he made the letter 'N' disappear from the alphabet. More like Ge_o Petriashvili & Amir Hossei_ Zare if you ask me.

By your logic, yes

Ahh yes the ol' Tim Tebow argument

Pretty easy to extrapolate if you don't go down the transfer/recruiting butterfly effect and just pretend Kerk and Dean are at school X. It comes out to a -20 point swing leaving Penn State at 117.5, or 45 points ahead of Iowa. Or if you want to pretend that the wheel didn't spin and Beard = PSU, Dean = Cornell, Kerk = tOSU, and Nevills = PSU then this is how the math checks out: Beard finished R12: 1 win (+1 MD) on the front side, 2 wins ((0.5*2)+1MD) in consis) = 4 points Nevills finished R16: 1 decision the front side + .5 in consis = 1.5 points If you want to say "but but but Cornell!" then please remember that Dean beat Cardenas in the 7th place match so it would not have been enough to beat Iowa. Cardenas scored 6.5 points and Dean scored 7. +0.5 Cornell The big winner would have been tOSU +19.5 from Kerk and -1.5 from Orndorff (R12). That would have moved tOSU from 4th into 2nd place with 88.0 points. Therefore: PSU 117.5 [-21 points, remains winner] tOSU 88.0 [+17.0 ↑2 places] Iowa 82.5 [±0.0 ↓1 place] Cornell 80.5 [+0.5 ↓1 place]

2018 Zac won greco juniors and Danny (165) won free juniors. Both are much more inconsistent in folkstyle at the NCAA level than international styles. Illinois RTC has established itself as a great greco shop with Brian Medlin leading the charge. Kamal Bey, Max Nowry, Ellis Coleman, Tanner Farmer, the Braunagels, and now Luke Luffman (4th at the US Open) are all resident athletes and becoming/ are household names in the greco community.

You know who else is from Cincinnati? 2x AA Lucas Byrd who wrestles at... you guessed it! University of Illinois.

There's a dude named Gable. I think he takes it in a tight race. . . . By first period tech fall.

Blades is originally from IL