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There have been 30 wrestlers to win 3 out of 4. None lost the chance at four titles their senior year. Three did lose their attempt for four in their junior year. The aforementioned Dick Hutton was first, followed by Ed Banach, and Lincoln McIlravy. They each lost in the final their junior year to go 1, 1, 2, 1.

Right on time

I love numbers. And when you love numbers, you also love outliers. Yianni is absolutely, 100% an outlier. You can believe my motives, or not. But, it doesn't make Yianni's situation any less interesting.

That ship has sailed

You start calling yourself King Brain and Indianamat is starting to look better.

The other Dan device when he is shown to be wrong - "if true" - has made an appearance.

Say it in four.

I feel a need to further clarify my intent here. I want Yianni Diakomihalis to win a fourth title, because I want there to be beautiful things in the world. And winning four titles would be beautiful. I also want Spencer Lee to win a fourth title for the same reason, and because two four timers in the same year would double the beauty. (And Fix with a fourth second would not be displeasing from a symmetry perspective). But there is also a part of me that wants Yianni to win all of his matches by a single point, and not because he is not dominant. No, I want him to win by a single point to prove his dominance. He can call the score before each match, and then demonstrate complete mastery and control by delivering that exact score each time. His opponents' will and desires will be irrelevant. That would be a Uetake level of dominance, and who would not celebrate that?

Red was an AA 2019

I didn't go through everything, but it looks like you are missing some AAs for at least Lee and Diakomihalis. I think Lee has wrestled 9 AAs and Diakomihalis 10. For example, Josh Heil is a two time champ, but you do not have him listed as an AA. And Chad Red is a 4 time AA (some say 3, but they bore me). And Zach Sherman is a 1 time AA.

To be clear, I am not knocking Yianni's lack of dominance, I am pointing out how unique his dominance is.

I did some deeper digging. In the ~32 man bracket era (1967 to present) there have been 135 wrestlers who have won multiple titles. Among those 135 only 2 have had fewer bonus points than titles. Kurt Angle had 2 titles and only 1 bonus point (though there were not full wrestle backs his freshman year) between 1988 and 1992. And Dean Heil did the deed, amassing 0 bonus points on the way to his 2 titles between 2015 and 2018.

Two different criteria. Yianni is more dominant in the regular season than Dake was and Dake was more dominant at the NCAA tournament than Yianni has been. That said, lack of dominance is a bad description to give to a three (probably four) timer when the point of the exercise is to become a three (probably four) timer.

Not cool taking someone else's line. I know. Ask @jross

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I find it fascinating that he has fewer bonus points than NCAA titles. That in no way minimizes his three titles. And he has to be a very large favorite to win a fourth, but the fact is he is doing it in a way that no one else ever has.

Fine, let's use your framework. How many bonus points has Yianni Diakomihalis scored against AAs? Zero. How many has Spencer Lee scored against AAs? 7. And Yianni has had more opportunities (10 vs 9). No matter how you split it 2 bonus points in 15 NCAA matches is historically low.

I disagree. That would increase the relative value of bonus points and back side advancement points (and yes, front side advancement points too). Without looking it up, I assume most bonus points per match are scored in the early rounds, aka the easiest matches. But the point of the exercise is to win five. That should always outweigh the manner in which you win them.

yeah, but why aren't you including Yianni's tournament wins?

I made the same argument over on the forum that shall remain nameless, and some of the faithful said they doubted he wrestles Cliff Keen. I know what I don't know, so I am not speculating, just sharing.

Those in the know seem to be skeptical that he will wrestle Cliff Keen. Regardless of the total, it has been an amazing career.

In three tournaments Yianni Diakomihalis has scored an almost incomprehensible two total bonus points. Does he get more titles than bonus points for his career?

Boy, did you lose your edge while you were away.

Good man. I hope you win.

In the immortal words of Rene Descartes, "I swam, therefore I am." At least that is what I think he said.