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  1. On 4/2/2024 at 7:41 AM, ThreePointTakedown said:

    Why should anyone care about who you think is 'sad'? Maybe they are not. Maybe just being able to swim for the first time as the representation of the person they always felt they were, makes them very happy. I think that's the thing that bothers you the most(because you have only speculation of other things that could be bothersome). It usually does. That they could be happy doing something you feel should make them 'sad' or ashamed. I know at this point you've stopped reading because of psycho-babble stuff that you can't either; understand or are afraid is correct.

    I don't think you have any idea what 'indoctrination' really means. Its being forced to believe something without sufficient evidence. Which is exactly what you've done at every step in this conversation. Rather than trying to learn or gain more understanding. You've fallen back on your biased ideas of a thing and refused to acknowledge that you could be wrong or have been misled. Coming to the realization that you've been indoctrinated is difficult. But it seems as though you have the signs of someone who has. Thinking you are too smart to be tricked doesn't inoculate you from the possibility of being tricked. Just that you're too ashamed to admit it.

    'Different then they are'? What kind of person is already trying to put kids in a box rather then allowing them to investigate, in a safe way, every conceivable possibility? Its because you're scared or jealous. Those are usually the reasons parents try to stifle their children. Because they are emotionally immature and would rather have the satisfaction of being 'better' than their kids rather than them find out the truth and beauty of what's really out there. Probably something you were not able to experience as a child. But what do I know, I'm a babbling psycho. 

    It is in the open. Its not going away. People are going to be themselves without your permission and doing it right in front of you and likely they've done it without you knowing or being bothered by it. Regardless of how 'sad' or different you think it is. Until you, eventually, don't even think of it as odd. It will be at this point that we've won. You will have accepted this 'horrible thing' that you fought against so vehemently, that you won't even remember why. It'll just be another in a long line of infinitesimal changes that you cursed and feared but in the end made very little difference in your life. If for no other reason that you chose not to participate. It will be so subtle that it likely won't even register in your mind and when the next issue comes up you'll do this dance all over again. 

    Your words, 'They are sad, depressed and have little hope of every getting out of that.   They need counseling, they need help.   They need understanding.' All things that you could say in the mirror and be spot on. You are so scared, I hope it doesn't lead you to do something that you'll regret. 

     

    For the same reason you think anyone cares about what you think.  Carry on babble boy jr. 

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  2. 2 minutes ago, Le duke said:

     


    The question originally posed was, more or less, when was the last time an American service member died for the rights of other Americans.

    Somehow, American now equals Afghan? And constitutional freedoms equal human rights, according to you?


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    More or less. And yes our military has gone woke.  

  3. Just now, braves121 said:

    I thought this whole argument was to respect American troops who died for American freedoms and rights. Now you are saying our troops died fighting for human rights so women can drive a car and not cover their faces because a man says they should. If that’s what our job was to prevent we didn’t a really bad job because That happens in Afghanistan now after we were there for years and lost many American lives. Saudi Arabia who is most responsible for 9/11 still has those norms yet you don’t care because we are allies. 

    Because we’re not there anymore.  And ***duck** Saudi Arabia.  

  4. 7 minutes ago, braves121 said:

    Ok so after Bin Ladin was killed what freedom and rights were we fighting for in Afghanistan? 

    As he again moves the goal posts.  Oh and it’s called human rights.  You know so a woman can drive a car and not have to cover their faces because a man says they should.  Just admit it. You’re ok with what happened on 911. 

  5. 14 minutes ago, braves121 said:

    Where did i move the goalposts from? Why should we care who is in power in Afghanistan it has no affect on any Americans freedom or rights it has not for decades, it’s arguable that we caused the conditions for the taliban to have power because it’s a forever insurgency type situation like Israel is creating in Gaza 

    When the people in power harbor terrorists that killed thousands of Americans it matters.  

  6. 10 minutes ago, braves121 said:

    Where did i move the goalposts from? Why should we care who is in power in Afghanistan it has no affect on any Americans freedom or rights it has not for decades, it’s arguable that we caused the conditions for the taliban to have power because it’s a forever insurgency type situation like Israel is creating in Gaza 

    It’s arguable that if it wasn’t for our military defending the world and human rights you’d already be speaking Chinese and enjoying the values of communism. 

  7. 9 minutes ago, braves121 said:

    Where did i move the goalposts from? Why should we care who is in power in Afghanistan it has no affect on any Americans freedom or rights it has not for decades, it’s arguable that we caused the conditions for the taliban to have power because it’s a forever insurgency type situation like Israel is creating in Gaza 

    You seem ok with what happened on 911 

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  8. 6 minutes ago, braves121 said:

    Where did i move the goalposts from? Why should we care who is in power in Afghanistan it has no affect on any Americans freedom or rights it has not for decades, it’s arguable that we caused the conditions for the taliban to have power because it’s a forever insurgency type situation like Israel is creating in Gaza 

    You asked when the last time we fought for American rights.  I answered with 911.  You poo pooed it. Hence moving the goal posts. 

  9. 11 minutes ago, braves121 said:

    Ok so what American rights did we fight for in Afghanistan for 2 decades and cost many lives? What American rights did we fight for in Iraq? What American rights did we fight for in Vietnam?

    What happened that caused us to go into Afghanistan?   Who was it that the Taliban harbored there?   Hmmmmmmmmmm Good Grief. 

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  10. 2 minutes ago, braves121 said:

    Yes I did. We always hear about we always need to stand for anthem or respect troops because they fight and die for our freedom and rights. Was the Taliban trying to take our freedom and rights away? Was Iraq trying to take away our freedom and rights? What about Vietnam? None of these conflicts were about our troops defending our freedom or rights so I am actually asking this when was the last conflict we sent over American youth to protect peoples like me and yours everyday freedom

    You have to be the dumbest MFer on here 

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  11. 4 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

    You are all over the place. First it was about freedom of speech for you in spite of the fact that I did or said nothing to impinge on his freedom and I do not represent the government, then it was about irony, and now it is about hypocrisy. When you have too many points, you have no point.

    I’m still in the same place. And You did exactly what he/she did.   You both exercised your freedom of speech rights by saying something stupid. 

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