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That’s very easy to say if you’re Penn State. But a lot of the mid tier coaches are getting pretty cynical about their hard work and actually taking the time to coach guys up then having their talent blatantly poached. Yes, I’m aware of the environment and the excuses for it. But if you follow these trends to their natural conclusion. The end result is the sport shrinking and shrinking. it is what it is

Problem is poaching. Always that

I mean.. the progress wasn’t really linear… He went from a surprise silver to DNPing for 2-3 years and looking like he was slightly regressing. He wasn’t finishing shots either, either only got a step out or was countered. Since going to PSU.. he’s only won 3 straight world medals and a title. Gilman only massively improved his technique.. Started to finally make very clear technical adjustments to finish his shots, wrestles to score points instead of just try to hand fight people down. There’s not bad faith arguments here

A few of my kids in the spring asked me. “Coach why are you telling us to warm up our ribs with our partners?” No one asked or questioned after

Again???

I was more referring to biases that exist but I’m not in the mood to start a shit storm over stating things that happen. There’s a ref I was finally able to get black listed from reffing my teams matches because his calls were so unbelievably inconsistent that even other refs had to admit it

I would like to say that it isn’t like that, but most of the better refs I know have pretty much started staying in the local tri state area for similar reasons

Especially if you coach certain places

Not depending on USA wrestling is why the RTCs exist

If the things known before Blair eliminated were an automatic deal breaker. Psu would be recruiting way less

Was the Ferrari family anywhere close to the same flight risk as they are now…

If you’re that ignorant. I don’t know how to help you

Combo of 1. no knowledge, and/or common knowledge is.. lacking 2. More different from folkstyle than Freestyle is. And the way our kids get exposure to wrestling is folkstyle 3. Reffing sucks. Someone close to me only refs international styles now and was about losing their mind about how bad “experienced” M1s were not calling anything right and letting the bad Freco (because it was not actual Greco) be even worse than it should have been 4. Because guys who either won Fargo in Greco or have gotten high on the ladder in Greco haven’t done well in folkstyle/freestyle. And/or some have done it after subpar results in freestyle. 5. Allegations of active sabotage to the program

The word I heard from people I trust is that Joni was coming late to practice, stupid overweight and just straight up allowed to do things Smith never has let fly Edit JoJo

Awesome

I said started the erosion

Not at all what I’m referring to. I thought about putting a caveat to make that clear

Same with people that have only lasted at any job 2-3 years max before having to move on for one reason or another

USA Wrestling been playing a lot of whack a mole lately with certain stories..

Isn’t the preferential treatment the older son got part of what started eroding the culture there?

I thought willie said that Smith was planning on retiring after this year? Or is he waiting till Fix graduates

He’s hurt again?

This is part of why I think the poaching has gotten so bad. I think some coaches are trying to win as much as they can before it all crashes down

Ah, hence you saying possibly. I appreciate understatement

I don’t think it’s “active”.. just doing the not giving any resources or attention, then when the results are subpar, victim blame and say that it’s their fault they aren’t earning the right for more support. I can’t say anything other than I’ve seen it before