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Dake and Tsargush have wrestled before. I think this match was won by Dake.

Yes! 1997 Iowa was 2x better than Minnesota at NCAAs. He was correct that they were only 50% better than runner up OSU at NCAAs. This was quite the turnaround from a few months earlier at when OSU was 60% better at NWCA National Duals.

This is true. Mesenbrink isn't on the rankings for PSU either. Olympic redshirts aren't fully accounted for yet either.

Is a spot at the Olympic trials on offer at Bill Farrell?

True, but a little misleading. Ithaca College won D3 NCAAs either that year or within a year of that, so they were really good for a D3 team. Cornell probably had a pretty similar stature in wrestling when Koll took over to that of present day UNC. Koll took over a Cornell team that was 10th at NCAAs and had a 3 AAs the year before. Koll takes over a UNC team that finished 12th with 3AAs the year prior.

I'm sure some would have said the same thing about Cornell.

Not all 3 game suspensions are created equal and neither are all 1 year suspensions. I recall when Jordan Oliver first failed a drug test at the US Open. It was literally the worst possible timing for a 1 year ban. Not only did he miss the trials that year, but he was banned for the entire qualifying process the next year. This effectively made is a 2 year ban from trying to make the team. In that instance the ban was tied to the failed test. With on going gambling activities it's a little less clear when the ban should start. First gambling activity? Last bet? Since Brands started gambling in September 2022 and not knowing the exact penalty (1 year? 2 year? permanent ban?), he is possibly fortunate he was able to compete in the post season this past season.

Zero reason? That’s clearly not true. Many reasons have been given you have either ignored them or disagree with them. A football player’s girlfriend wouldn’t have the same access to team facilities as another athlete. She also isn’t representing the athletic department the same was as an employee/athlete. This is similar to a normal student. If the basketball team is betting against the football team it could cause the public to question if the team is trying to win or whether there are shenanigans afoot. It definitely reflects poorly on the athletic department. If there is no fixing or inside information involved and the basketball team just thinks the football team is bad, it is still negative for the university. It casts a shadow on the efforts of the football team and their integrity when they did nothing wrong and are simply not that good at football. You could spoint out that a handful of football players girlfriends betting against the team could do the same thing. I would agree that is true and the school/NCAA should investigate. I would also say that if a football player has a girlfriend that is betting against his team he should dump her. Just like the school should dump athletes that wager on their school. We have seen some unusual behavior spurred on by sports betting since it became widespread. This year there was a fan who yelled out during Mardy Fish’s backswing because he had bet on Steph Curry to win. Fans with a betting interest have done this multiple times in professional golf tournaments this year. I think it not wanting anyone within the athletic department to have a financial interest in football team losing is a compelling reason to ban betting on the schools sports or any NCAA sport sponsored by the school, because you dont want to incentivize bad behavior. To me there is no reason to allow it. The NCAA certainly has the right to ban conduct that, whilst not illegal, could negatively affect the institution and allowing athletes and athletic department staff to wager on their own school has no upside. None at all. It can only bring disrepute and cause the public to question whether the integrity of the game is being upheld.

https://uww.org/article/world-championships-sadulaev-forfeits-undergo-scans-neck-injury "Sadulaev is suffering from a neck hernia, towards the end of his spinal cord. Medical scans will determine if it is a tumor or if Sadulaev can return to the mat without surgery."

According to UWW "65kg champion Takuto OTOGURO (JPN) also pulled out due to a foot injury he has been carrying for one year."

Playing for the Giants my concerns would be more that my friend would lose money and I wouldn't want to feel responsible. Or general annoyance that he would be betting against me because some player is injury or just not believe in us. Nothing really unethical or illegal - just being a bad friend. Do you think there should be no limits on athletes betting on other sports teams at their institution? Supposing there is a late season largely meaningless football game and bunch of Iowa athletes from other sports (Baseball, basketball, wrestling, golf, track, and women's sports) as well as athletic department staff not directly involved in the game bet against the Hawkeyes and they lose the game. I could see how if that information came to light it would bring disrepute onto the university and NCAA athletics even if they were all just betting against them because they were really bad and that's why they were playing in a meaningless game late in the season. It will always be the NCAA and the institution that takes the reputation hit and not the sports books, so they will be the ones making the rules. Whose image was hurt most by the Black Sox scandal? The players, the team, the league, or the sports books? The incorrect answer is obvious. The sports books don't care if it's fixed, so long as they mitigate the risk they will make money either way. They take bets on WWE events!

If I played fro the Giants and I found out a friend was making bets based on information I told him that would probably annoy me. It would make me not want to share information with that person. I can't think of a major professional sports league that allows their athletes or employees to bet on league contests even involving other teams. The Iowa athletic department is essentially running 20 different professional teams some more profitable than others. The athletes are essentially employees of the same entity. I am sure there is some interaction between the different sports - they don't have 20 different weight rooms, running tracks, ect. Information could be learned from proximity and not by someone directly sharing information like your friend example. Allowing betting on sports at the same institution has little benefit to the institution or the NCAA and can only really damage their reputation if there is an incident, so why allow it? I think the NCAA rules could be relaxed in some aspects. I don't see the conflict in allowing betting on professional sports (NFL, MLB, Overseas Tennis, ect.) and sports that are not sponsored by the school (In Iowa's case one example might be NCAA men's ice hockey), but I'd keep the penalties for betting on your own NCAA sport or your own institution.

I dunno about that but Brands should get a lawyer and sue Draft Kings. According to his tweet he signed up because they said if he placed a $5 bet on an NFL game as a new member he would receive $200, yet the account summary he posted only shows $51 in rewards and promotions. Looks to me like he was cheated out of $149.

The repechage system seems like someone asked a mathematician what's the fewest matches you need to determine the top 3 wrestlers. Then they decided that was one too many matches. The thing is whilst this would be just fine if you are only interested in determining the top 3 the logic doesn't work below 3rd. It's possible the 4th best wrestler is not even involved in the repechage. And it's not like they don't care about the places after 3rd. They give out a second 3rd, sometimes 5th and/or 6th get Olympic qualification, and they award rankings points based on more than just the top 3 placements.

After the U.S. Supreme Court overturned a federal ban on sports betting in 2018, Iowa legalized sports gambling Aug. 15, 2019.

One might infer that from the statement "had no clue that I could be PERMANENTLY banned"

Looking back at his tweets it says "I missed the meeting in 2022." It doesn't say whether he also missed it in 2021, or 2020, or 2019, or 2018.

I am not sure what distinction you are trying to make. If Rose was under duress it was of his own making. Was he under duress when he bet on the Reds 50+ times in 1987? He simply agreed to the inevitable That he agreed to be placed on the ineligible list itself is a novelty. No one else on the list agreed to be placed there. This agreement came about because Rose refused to participate in the hearings and then sued to stop them. The agreement was a settlement agreement to his lawsuit. And whilst he had been granted a temporary restraining order stopping the hearing he wasn't going to win this lawsuit. One final distinction is that Rose agreed to be placed on the ineligible list at the time there was no formal rule preventing someone on the list from being inducted into the hall of fame. So he didn't really agree to no hall of fame, but that ultimately was a consequence of his actions.

Isn't this an annual meeting? He is in his 6th year at Iowa. Did he skip it 5 straight years?

Maybe he is fishing for an NIL deal from an online casino? I think Pete Rose does endorsements for casinos.

Things changed recently with regards to betting. When the NCAA first outlawed betting years ago and made the initial rules the only sports betting was essentially illegal sports books. It made sense to have harsher penalties at that time because if an athlete was betting they were also breaking the law. Even betting on professional games could be problematic. An athlete could end up in the hole with a bookie who might demand the debt be paid by fixing or point shaving their athletic contests. Today I don't see why they continue to ban betting on professional sports since it is widely legal to do so and fewer negative externalities. Also with the legalization of gambling it also makes it easier to catch offenders which should mean that the punishment doesn't have to be as harsh to serve its purpose. If you are unlikely to catch offenders because they're doing all this on the black market, harshly punishing offenders can serve as a valuable deterrent. If you can catch ~100% of offenders then it makes sense to have less harsh penalties because the near perfect enforcement is deterrent itself.

Yes, but this was the year he redshirted. 1983-1984 he lost in the second round and DNP. 1984-1985 was the year he lost to Jordan in the final, wrestled at Espior worlds (July in Colorado) and took bronze. 1985-1986 he redshirted won senior nationals (April? in Vegas), won Goodwill Games (July in Moscow), did not wrestle at worlds (October in Budapest). 1986-1987 he won NCAAs, did not win senior nationals (did he wrestle?), presumable won WTT, won Pan Ams (August in Indianapolis), and won world championships (August in France). 1987-1988 he won NCAAs, won senior nationals, won OTT, won Olympics. I suppose worlds being in October 1986 may have interfered with his preparation for his redshirt junior year so he may have sat out the trials. Maybe if they had been earlier in the year like they were in 1987 he would not have sat out. Or perhaps if he had beaten Iseav before the trials he would have prioritized going to the world championships. Either way if he sat out the WTT in 1986 then we still don't know where the 3rd domestic loss occurred.

That's what I found as well. I would assume that would mean 2 domestic losses at the junior level which wouldn't work. Since the HOF record for him had three losses and he definitely had two at the senior level. Maybe he forfeited the 3rd place match?

I really don't know. I read an article that said the loss to Fisher in 1992 was his first domestic loss in 4 years (Lewis in 1988 presumably) and first since 1990 (Reinoso at Cerro Pelado). So I think this loss had to happen before the 1988 loss to Lewis. I see that he won Senior Nationals in 1986 and, as you pointed out, the Goodwill Games. I think those would have happened in maybe an April/May time frame for Senior Nationals and the Goodwill Games were in July. Joe McFarland represented the US at the World Championships in October where he lost to the finals to Isaev. So maybe he lost at the trials in 1986? It would seem odd too me that he skipped the trials. For context this was his redshirt year so he didn't wrestle an NCAA schedule. Another guess would be Senior Nationals in 1987. Smith did not win Senior Nationals in 1987. He won them in 1986 and 1988-1991. I do not know if that was because he sat out in 1987 or because he lost. My final guess is that they included some loss from Junior or Espior in that record. I think he lost domestically at the Junior level. I suspect they did this with his international record (100-5). The international losses I could find for him are below. Could only find 3 at the senior level so I think the other two were at Espior and Juniors. 1992 Olympics 5th round Reinoso (Cuba) 3-1 OT over Smith (USA) 1990 Cerro Pelado Reinoso (Cuba) 4-3 OT over Smith (USA) 1989 World Cup Sarkisyan (USSR) 2-1 over Smith (USA) 1985 World Espior Championships Smith finished 3rd in a weight won by Arsen Fadzayev (USSR) though I don't know who beat Smith. Radko Karmandiev (Bul) was the silver medalist. 1983 Junior World Championships Finals Nikolai Garkin (USSR) over Smith (USSR)

The Olympics happened in 2021. I know they are often called the 2020 Olympics because they were supposed to have happened in 2020. If you want to call them the 2020 Olympics for that reason that's fine, but Snyder was 25 years old when he wrestled in them whether you call them the 2021 Olympics or the 2020 Olympics.