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I will say this, although they apparently have a lot of "fun," information coming out of state college in recent years seems to indicate a fairly high level of weight cutting. Maybe not OSU level, but more than I would have thought a couple years ago. I'm not saying that it is good or bad, just that it is a thing.

U20 world title before his senior year. That is pretty good. Just made another U20 team this weekend. If he "disappoints," it's probably because he splits time with football, not because of anything involving coaching and development. He will probably need to put on a little size, though.

I think he was training freestyle on a semi regular basis with WWE. He won't be able to do that with NFL.

I can see that for sure. and VERY depleted.

Snyder had more international accolades at the age of 20 than Cael has at the age of 44.

11 sounds about right. Is this the Norm quote?: "I think the worst part of the Cosby thing was the hypocrisy." And I disagree. I thought it was the raping. It's my feeling most rapists are hypocrites. You don't meet many that go "I like raping and I know it's not politically correct but, by god" and people go "well, he's not being a hypocrite and that's the worst part!"

I spent a couple weeks at the OTC around the time Cael made his debut. I had conversations with a prominent coach or two and the topic of bribery came up. The gist at the time was: "other countries do that... the US cannot and will not." I'm not saying it is impossible that Romero was bribed, but seemed unlikely a few years before. I generally saw Cubans taking dives in finals, too. Didn't they have a ridiculous finals losing streak at some point? Like 8 straight losses or something?

Are you saying the US may have bribed Yoel Romero?

Sanderson was never in the argument for "best in the world." The other two have been. Sanderson is an all-time American great, but no one out the the US would consider him much more than a one hit wonder. His NCAA and coaching accomplishments have inflated his international achievements. Similar stuff happened with Dan Gable.

If I remember correctly, Gable wasn't even there. He relayed the instructions to Zalesky. This was covered in "A Season on the Mat," and my copy is in another state at the moment.

I thought he was also trying not to torpedo Hand's confidence?

There is a lot going on here. Big brother-y type stuff can come into play. Familiarity The fact that Snyder has the fatigue associated with going hard every single day, whereas Cael can pick and choose when he goes hard. Coaches also are known for picking advantageous times to wrestle a fatigued athlete during practice. If only there was a data point of Coach Cael putting it on the line vs. the best in the world! Alas, he retired in 2004...

Wow! Hopefully he was a nice guy! Never went to one wrestling practice at Lock Haven, or he could perhaps be eligible for this list!

I've "only" been following since '83-'84ish. I'd say this is a pretty good list, but night put Neal over Snyder. Snyder has that 3rd NCAA title, but no way can I see prime Snyder beating prime Neal 6 out of 10 times. I can't see it. I also have a soft spot for Haselrig (same d2 conference, same era). There are other worthy additions, but this is pretty good. It would obviously be different it it were "285."

Supposedly folkstyle is what catch (without submissions) has evolved into. I suppose kind of like both 2024 sport Judo and sport BJJ are evolutions of Japanese jujutsu.

That was pro sports at the time...

He also always abstained from whiskey while posting.

and split up over the next 50 years!

I am old enough to remember when Adam Coon was destined to be the next All-Pro Offensive Tackle...

And current Hawks don't run away when par terre defense is being practiced...

Hold on Vak... Plott was HEW, don't you understand? The win is meaningless.

197? Why would he wrestle that heavy? Looks like a 174 at most, under the previous regime.

Yes. Not like they are dominating weak guys and getting overseeded. Something has just been happening at nationals.

They beat some pretty good guys! Scott, not so much, but he was also a returning placer. Championship Results 157 – #12 Ed Scott (NCSU) dec. #32 Sonny Santiago (UNC) – 8-2 165 – Nick Hamilton (UVA) dec. #21 Connor Brady (VT) – 7-2 174 – #2 Mekhi Lewis (VT) dec. #16 Justin McCoy (UVA) – 8-1 184 – #15 Thomas Stewart, Jr. (VT) dec. #10 Dylan Fishback (NCSU) – 8-5 197 – #2 Trent Hidlay (NCSU) over #23 Max Shaw (UNC) – medical forfeit 285 – #14 Owen Trephan (NCSU) dec. #19 Hunter Catka (VT) – 4-2 125 – #10 Jakob Camacho (NCSU) dec. #6 Cooper Flynn (VT) – 4-2 133 – #4 Kai Orine (NCSU) def. #15 Sam Latona (VT) – 4-0 141 – #4 Ryan Jack (NCSU) def. #14 Cole Matthews (Pitt) – 4-1 149 – #5 Jackson Arrington (NCSU) def. #2 Caleb Henson (VT) – 4-1 SV-1

I mean, I was a middling D2 5'10" 150 lber and I could grab rim with both hands. Our 158 could dunk.