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I agree on the Caliendo bit as well. Caliendo is like an aggressive version of Amine. He could get teched.

I think the formula may spit Mesenbrink out, however the committee can move people up/down if required. I could see where if Carr wins the dual and O'Toole wins the B12 a one-loss O'Toole being moved above Mesenbrink... 2x defending champ, etc. That route could put Carr at the 4 seed as well, due to Ramirez having the same amount of losses and having lost the H2H... BUT Carr does have more matches, so even with the same losses he will get the nod on that criteria due to winning percentage. Due to it putting them on the same side, I could see the committee NOT elevating O'Toole past Mesenbrink for the 1 seed, in that scenario. The same the other way, too. If Carr wins B12 but loses the dual, I think they end up as the 2/3. A lot is going to be dependent on the final coaches ranking, I think?

It's that thing the ladies do once a month, I think.

I mean... he's not wrong. With how these gents are wrestling right now and what results they have already put in... he cannot be Tier 1, as Ramirez is Tier 3. The law of Tiers is that you cannot jump two and win a regular match. Something would have to be off... illness, injury, or a deckfall for someone more than one tier away to defeat someone above them. My tiers would have been different (better ), but I commend @flyingcement on a great effort. He did well.

What are the odds, providing Mesnebrink wins out, that he gets the 1 seed over a 1+ loss O'Toole or Carr that is also the B12 champ?

Sta(l)rocci was a punk long before that dual. If you were to look for a heel on the team prior to that most people would have said Sta(l)rocci, as it were. That said... this is entirely on the Maryland coaching staff for not preparing their squad appropriately.

I feel attacked for Dr.@MPhillips. Such a mean thread title.

You disagree with all twelve takes then? Some are opinion based, I will give you that. Others are not and that makes you wrong.

Nah. I have had a few wrestlers end up going to MSU. I wanted to go there, myself, but 'ended up' at Michigan. Honestly looking at what Sparty is doing this year with what they have to work with and they are getting the most out of the least in relative terms. Their room would be less than par in the MAC, imho. The coaching staff is doing a helluva job.

For me it wasn't because of the reason I said. I still understand it was an upset.

I love their mew lifting digs. I wish they could get attention on the room. Wrestling doesn't move the needle where it needs to at the administration level there, though.

I may be the only one on this forum that has been in both rooms within the last ten years.

14-4 for Shapiro w/ riding time of Mauller.

Shapiro is destroying Mauller...

I am not saying that I am correct, just repeating what was posted by Mizzou ~45 minutes ago.

Per their Twitter both Mauller and Whiting are wrestling today.

149 has had a few starters this year. 157 is a surprise. 184 they are three deep there with three gents that could get R12 or so type production.

Is it now Josh Saunders's's time?

I saw that. Utterly pathetic on Sta(l)rocci's part. Clearly still sickly.

Peterson is tough and pretty fundamentally sound. Not surprised at all he best McKee. Wells was a surprise, though. McEnelly over Soldano isn't a surprise, especially considering how Soldano has been wrestling recently. Joles is a powerful as they come at 197lbs and that is kind of Poz's shtick isn't it? While all considered upsets, none are surprises.

Whay happened to Nokhodi at 86 KG for Iran?

I thought NCAA rules was 15, but B1G limits to 13? In any case UofM took 13 last night. I would take two 125, 141, 157, 174, and 197s to prevent this. I was told they had another 141lber with them, but he didn't weigh in. The skin check failure was a shock to everyone there.

Styles, man. Truax won't put himself in a position to be pinned by him. In his matches he was pinned (the last two years) he was putting himself out of position to aggressively go for a move. He won't do that with Feldkamp. 2% is still very low, but I think those three specifically, right now in their careers and current training situations are <1% (for me). Also, did you watch the Trumble match? HFS... comedic the size difference. I wish our weight classes lined up more appriately with MFS for guys like Trumble.

13 for B1G duals, I thouhht.

The further from the scale it got the worse it was for Michigan.