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Feldman was the #1 P4P last year wasn't he? He wasn't even close to amounting to an ounce towards the possibility of maybe competing against Masoumi last season.

I can't help but notice you hate Michigan. 'splain yo'self.

Is there a personal reason for this? Like blood relation of some sorts?

Your rules are for sissies.

Any chance we see Hoffman Grad transfer?

That is a good one. Much like Latona, he has the length for it.

Greetings All, Figured it would be fun to discuss this. Rather than a 'This is happening' sort of thing make it a 'It would be cool if this happened' sort of thing. So Sasso to 157 and Bastida to 285 are off the table since they are happening. I will lead it off with a few. Some have traction and some do not. Ragusin, UofM - I would like to see him at 141 this year and not take a redshirt. My understanding is it is about 50/50 as of now which direction it will be. Amine, UofM (Also Griffith, UofM by proxy) - I would like to see Amine at 174. I want to see him against Starocci now. I just do. Saldate, MSU - I would like to see him at 165 in an attempt to set himself up at a run in the International style(s). This likely pushes Fish up to 174, which I think he is undersized for, but a drop to 157 is likely out after he wrestled 79 KG this offseason. Gilcher, Indiana - I would like to see him at 165 for the same reason(s) as Saldate. He showed moxie this offseason at 74 KG. I want to see him run it back collegiately before he transfers in to Michigan to wrestle his last season with his brother (another hope). North, Maryland & South, Indiana - I don't care which one does it... but I would prefer South go down to 157 and have him make this match happen. North to 165 seems long-winded and at Indiana Gilcher can swap weights with him. I have to see this. It is a requirement. Lewis, Virginia Tech - I want to see him at 184. This gives us a 'Big 4' up there with PK, Munoz, and Truax as the other three. I just don't see him touching Starocci right now... 174 is his weight... and I want to see Lewis give the Internation style a go after this season, which I don't see him being able to get to 74 KG anymore. Fix, OSU - I would like to see him at 125lbs. A poetic justice sort of thing. I wanted him at 141 before, but he is going 57 KG for OTT so 125 it is. Teske/Ayala, Iowa - I would like them to swap weights. Ayala at 133 and Teske at 125. Ayala has the frame to be successful at 133 and his shoulder injuries make me concerned about him cutting weight. Teske is too small for 133. Parco, ASU - I want to see him at 141. He is not even an average sized 149lber. He is so fast and good... i want to see him at 141 prior to him making a run at 65 KG. Teemer, ASU - Up to 165 to prepare for a 74 KG run. Valencia, ASU - Up to 184 to prepare for a 86 KG run (for Mexico). Wick/Lamer(Legend) - Weight swap. I think it makes sense. Caliendo, Iowa - Up to 184 (bumping Assad to 197), also Swafford to 184 to compete as well. Just a few ideas/wishes.

I am pretty stoked to see this lineup, even as a Michigander. In a dual with UofM I have Ohio State favored at 149 and 197 with Michigan favored at 125 and 285 and the rest being potential swing matches, depending on the lineup. I am very curious if Geog beats out Hoffman at 197 (guy wrestled under 170lbs at a high school tournament two seasons ago (~18 months)... guy is massive now. Reminds me of Michigan's Anthony Biondo from about 15 years ago. Guy grew rather linear in high school, starting at 103 or 112 and finishing at 152 as a senior then as a frosh at UofM I believe he went 174... my thinking was that it was probably just him not cutting at all... Then I actually saw him in a dual at 197 and the guy grew three feet wider between then and two years prior. It was impressive. I think they had planned on Shumate being the guy at 184 during the recruiting process and all that, but Geog will give him a run if he makes that drop. That said I think him-Hoffman is a thing and we might be surprised by Geog. Sasso at 157 is an absolute title favorite. Over Haines? I say yes even if most people might say no. Fortunately for Michigan, Lewan matches up well with Sasso. Bouzakis at 133 is ready, I think. I know he got handled by another true frosh in Crook at 141 last year... but that wasn't 133. I think 133 is his weight and he is going to show us that. Mendez at 141 or Decatur? Decatur is a lot like Alvarez. I don't know if 141 is the weight for him. Unfortunately for him he has never shown any signs of improvement on bottom so going up to 149 will be difficult to do successfully... even if he can beat D'Emilio. I think Feldman is right there and basically a lock for AA, even if I think it is in the 6-8 range. I am of the mind, with this squad... they need to start whomever is best. They have so much potential and it is Sasso's last season. Save redshirts for potential injuries. Kilkeary Bouzakis Mendez D'Emilio Sasso Hepner/Paddy Kharchla Shumate Geog Feldman GETSOME

How? I thought a requisite was that they had to compete at Euros?

The same one who just lost at his natural weight of 74 KG?

Will be.**

My apologies... Paddy was the #2 160lber in 2020 behind KOT.

Also interesting to me is that the 2020 #15 152lber is the favorite over the 2020 and 2021 #1 160lber for the 165lb spot when they were from the same High School and have been training in the same room collegiately.

Well as you confirmed prior... Via Flo: https://www.flowrestling.org/

For the sake of phuk.

Someone finally got it right.

What!? Why?!

First off, weight classes exist for a reason. That is what you are getting at, correct? The counter to that is that while that is true, the P4P greats can go up a weight class and compete with those P4P gents. Look at JB a few years ago against DT... the same DT who is/was #1 at 86 KG at the time. 5-5 on Criteria was it? Look at Dake against Cox at 86 KG for OTT a few years back. Look at Cox against Snyder. The examples are there. Hell, look at Zillmer, who isn't considered a P4P great at 92/97 KG when he went to 125 KG. Look at Valencia at 92 KG up from 79 KG (let's be honest... he isn't a big 86 KG and has said, along with Marky Mark the reason to go 86 KG was that it was an Oly-weight and not size related at all). DT up at 97 KG would absolutely be a factor against everyone, including Snyder or Sadulaev. That said, I think he gets worn down against both. That is my simple opinion. Styles make matches, and DT could Tech the rest of the planet at 97 KG, I think he loses to those two, though due to style and not ability. This also said, nobody in the world is as good as Yazdani at the Irani underhook series across any weight class. There is no reason to believe he would not be a factor at 97 KG and I do think Yazdani does better against those two than DT would. Secondly, you already know the answer(s) to your 'Why doesn't DT go up' and 'Why did Nickal forfeit' questions. DT is #1 at 86 KG. He doesn't have anyone in front of him, domestically. That isn't a smart question, and you know it. Also, he does wrestle him. Every day, or close to it. They know how it goes and both speak just as highly of the other. Snyder has even said he can't compete with DT's scrambling abilities, so take that as it may. Now on to Nickal. Nickal forfeited out for two reasons: He had tweaked his knee against Mohammadian and was worried he would might cause further injury. Also, Snyder is a teammate. There was(is) no reason for them to wrestle and chance further injury to either of them at that stage of that tournament. Fan or not, those are and were publicly known then. The goal at that tournament was to win it. When they met on the backside there was no reason to wrestle because there were no questions needing to be answered.

42, gents. 42.

The answer is simply 'because' just so you know.

Had it backwards, mate. Also, Cal Baptist is already in the B12.

I had this backwards btw. SAFE

I thought it was the other way? In that case Cal Baptist is fine.

Because.

The perceived payday that the PAC schools were going to receive was around $20 million. Not only was that too low, members feared it might end up being lower on the subscription based plan. Mountain West distributed some $80 million this last year. Under $7 million per. Early estimates come in at ~$10-12 milion if the four fold in the the MWest. That is a significant drop. I think both will be fine for wrestling and can possibly get in to the B12 as partial members in the short term. Stanford is probably fine either way as their endowment is not tied to their athletic department specifically. Oregon State needs some serious help, though. Cal State - Baptist might be screwed as a D1 program, though. The B12 won't take them.