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That Ragusin/Nagao match was awesome. Cael’s look after was funny too, but he was stuck.

I was actually thinking his ride reminded me of RBY, which I’m not a big fan of but gets the job done. Impressive win for the true frosh, is he #1 now with Ayala losing?

Check on here “original Final X thread” or HawkeyeReport “so there’s some ugly stuff floating around about Mark Perry”

Seems like could be a possible shutout. I don’t see more than 6 pts for OrSU

After losing to Fish, I think Amine needs the match IMO

I’d give him about a 33% chance.

If Lewan is in but Gomez is out, for me then it’s Haines dec Lewan and Kasak at least majors whoever the backup 149 is. Which would make it 29-3. The only matches Michigan really has much chance to flip would IMO be 133, 165, 157 in that order. But they could also lose 125. Long story short they should “only” need to win 2 of those 4 to cover a 22 point spread if no Gomez. But bonus could also throw it off too

How many Larkins are there? Those dudes are good

Thanks, missed the Lewan one. Then yea that could be the case.

Should still be a lot next year and a decent amount even the year after. Next year will be the last for guys who were redshirt freshmen in 2021 (like Starocci if he comes back) or true freshmen in 2021 who may not end up using a redshirt (like O’Toole assuming he comes back and doesn’t redshirt next year). But if there were true freshmen that wrestled in 2021 and redshirted later, they will also have the 2026 season for their 5th tournament. Might still be a couple even after that if there are regular redshirts + Olympic/medicals

And getting a master’s degree, or did he already have one from Stanford? Even if he did, another can’t hurt

Flo just put up a few interviews on YouTube with Michigan guys. Gomez was one of them (good interview but can’t remember if they specifically talked PSU) so I’m thinking he’s in but could be wrong. Griffith said they should have a “full lineup except one of our guys”…guessing that’s Lewan

Yeah I think this is the most generous you could be while still being within the realm of possibility. In reality I’m thinking: 125: DeAugustino dec Davis 3-0 Mich 133: Nagao dec Ragusin 3-3 141: Bartlett dec Lemley 6-3 PSU 149: Gomez dec Kasak 6-6 157 Haines tech Mattin 11-6 PSU 165 Mesenbrink dec Amine 14-6 174 Starocci dec Griffith 17-6 184 Truax dec Bullock 20-6 197 Brooks major Striggow 24-6 285 Kerk dec Davison 27-6 I think I saw the line was 20? If Lewan wrestles then Michigan has a good shot to cover IMO.

Hmm, let me think about it lol. How much $ we talking?

Football? Pfft. I thought this thread was going to be about this:

I’m surprised you went with the Ferrari angle rather than “who’s Griffin?”

Well the PSU comment is a different conversation lol, I might agree with you there, assuming you’re referring specifically to NCAA wrestling. But I don’t think PSU is really relevant to any alleged image problem for Iowa. Without NIL, assuming PSU didn’t want them do you think Franek and Caliendo go somewhere besides Iowa?

I’m not really sure what your point was tbh. You said Iowa would get less transfers than PSU without NIL, but they’re only getting PSU’s leftovers as is, which would likely be the case even without NIL.

Even as is, have they gotten any transfers in recent years besides Woods that would start for Penn State?

Lol I’m no Iowa fan but this is silly. They have arguably the best atmosphere to wrestle in, and in a state where people actually care about wrestling. New facilities coming Say what you want about the Brands bros but they know how to coach and can also churn out successful adults (with some exceptions) It’s a far cry from the NLWC but HWC does have some solid guys, most notably Spencer Lee of course

I don’t gamble, what does that mean?

High school, but this one’s up there for me

Gotta say, I’m not sure they finish #2 but Iowa still being so high despite the guys that are currently suspended is impressive, even if most of it is due to the transfer portal. I’d like to say in my best Cinnybuns voice that they might have made it interesting with PSU (only due to SVN being out), but they probably don’t. They’re showing down by 50 with PSU likely having more upside, and Cass/Brands/Assad probably would’ve only added somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 incremental points or so.

Yeah I had Rocky as heavy favorite initially, but I think Glazier’s major of Allred has earned him slight underdog status. But I’m thinking 157 might have to go into the tossup category. I was thinking Arnold at 174 in this hypothetical, but maybe he shouldn’t count if he redshirts. Interestingly this is anther situation where using Arnold at 184 might make sense.