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Maybe. So who do you think Fix loses to in the finals this year?

I feel like a lot of that talk died down after seeing Mesenbrink/Hamiti, because people knew Mesenbrink deserved the 2. And with Carr losing to Ramírez it’s kinda tough to argue putting him at 3. To that point, the overall takeaway to me is that sitting out duals pays off. Fix and Ramírez being the biggest beneficiaries. As a result of the Carr/Ramírez situation I feel like we could see less guys enter CKLV because they don’t want to take an early season loss that they may not be able to avenge until NCAA’s.

But at least it’s the semis and if he gets there you’re guaranteed to AA

Everyone expected and was okay with him being “punished” but he should’ve been like the 5 seed at worst. The 5 seed lost twice to Benny Baker at EIWA’s. I guess that still screws Mekhi but not quite as badly at least.

True. Which is why these limited schedules particularly from PSU will continue. It’s odd that there appears to be “committee intervention”’ on some weights but not with Starocci.

So Starocci was 1 match short of an RPI right? Guess he shouldn’t have ducked Griffith…

You’re just happy Vito isn’t on the same side as Fix. Starocci beat the 6 seed. Vito hasn’t beaten anyone seeded ahead of him this season.

No he wasn’t

And Fix was seeded over Vito as he should have been

Yup, then putting Vito at 6? I would’ve thought he’d be 4 or 5

He beat Phillippi, Byrd, Mendez twice, and Orine last year. I still say it’s a disappointment if he doesn’t finish top 5, especially with the PSU bump.

Well the Purdue kid beat him 7-2 in the dual

Would you be commenting about this bracket if it was Wilson who byed into a placement?

I guess Manning’s point is that he thinks Starocci should have just been seeded last at B10’s if they knew he wasn’t going to wrestle? It’s still probably a bit of a stretch to get Wilson to an automatic qualifying spot though. If you reconstruct the bracket with everyone moving up 1 spot, he wrestles Maylor as an 11/6 matchup. If I’m reading this right, if he loses, with no Starocci he would’ve had a bye in his first consi match before wrestling the 4/5 loser, which would have been Welsh/Turley, both the guys he lost to, so he’d be back into the 9th place bracket there. If he beats Maylor he probably places top 8 in that scenario, but he did lose to Maylor in the dual. I mean I guess I wouldn’t be opposed to guys being able to not enter the conference tourney and still be entered into the at large pool (although there should be some penalty), but based on the current rules there isn’t anything wrong with what PSU did.

Nick Suriano did compete at B10’s that year. Lost his first match by injury default.

IIRC, he transferred mostly because PSU wanted him to get surgery and he did not. I don’t believe it was about whether or not he wrestled at NCAA’s. Based on the accounts of multiple wrestlers with firsthand knowledge of the situation, he was wrong when he said “Nick had broken his ankle and had no intention in competing in either tourney”

But you were “just hoping he’d be an AA contender” this year?

Sorry double post

Lol c’mon this is downplaying him big time. His run was “unexpected” largely because he was a redshirt freshman. He was 14-3 going into Big Tens last year with only one “bad” loss, and 2 dual wins over previous AA’s. He was arguably the second biggest get of anyone in the portal (behind Mesenbrink) due to what he placed at NCAA’s and number of years of eligibility remaining. If finishes lower than 5th this year it should be considered a disappointing season.

When I started this thread I was honestly thinking he hasn’t gotten a lot of press this year. He did have a win over Max Dean of course but I guess Brooks likely “beat the breaks off” him too.

So did you two have a problem with the kneeling?

He does talk a little bit about wrestling and family in this actually, but kinda funny that it starts with him saying “spread the word of God” so guessing they may have cut out some of his preaching

Whoops, forgot about that. Well if Beard takes out Brooks in the semis, then maybe he can hope Hidlay turns into the Hidlay when he wrestles Brooks and forgets his offense.

Yeah, it will probably come down to 125. IMO the most likely teams to outscore them would be Oklahoma State if Fix and Spratley win and Davis doesn’t AA, and maybe Arizona State if Parco and Figueroa win.

Just tried to slow down the ending. My guess is he just said “you know he was stalling” or something, but kinda odd that it seemed to be directed towards the OSU bench