Jimmy Cinnabon

Is Carter done with college? He said his next stop is Olympic gold?

Lucky Starocci?

Yes

David Carr come on down to Happy Valley and join your friend Mr. Brooks.

Carr needs to transfer to Penn State. We need a 165.

I was told Haines is just lucky.

Yes. Haines isn’t flashy.

AOC is 25 year old 6th year senior defending champ. Haines is 18 year old true freshman. The man strength and experience was the difference. AOC big brothered him.

That blue print works against everyone. AOC beat everyone this year.

6th year senior vs a true freshman. The physicality difference showed.

Ankle pinch used to perfection.

If you read my post and your only response is that I'm a troll, yet you can't state why you actually disagree with Zain > Lee then consider why you bothered to reply to my post at all.

Star and Brooks have each beaten their finals opponents before...they most likely will win. I give Haines a 25% shot of beating AOC, a defending champ. Kerk a 10% chance of beating Parris, who is just a bigger, stronger, faster version of himself with more of a gas tank. I give RBY a 50/50 with Vito given Vito's domination of Fix.

Hmm, so it's not a knee injury most likely... Perhaps another part of his body is injured.

I think he is the GOAT, of Iowa. But for NCAA purposes Zain had the better career. Now maybe if Lee goes onto to make an Olympic team we can say overall he had the better career...

Yes, and 2 of those were by fall -- and not flukey defensive pins or "touch falls". They were deliberate, slow falls.

Call me a troll, but I bet you agree with me on the ranking of Zain over Lee. Frankly, even the biggest homer can't look at their stats objectively head to head and say Lee's are better.

How about cutting away from the RBY-McGee match to give us a 45 second shot of Vito walking after his match?

Yianni also shoved SVN at the end of the match. He definitely seemed mad.

Do you actually disagree with my argument, or any of the statistics?

I think to head to head Zain just comes out on top. Both 3x champs, 2x Hodge but Zain finished with 3 undefeated seasons, had fewer losses and was never bonused. Anyone disagree? Zain Retherford 128-4, finished career with 3 consecutive undefeated seasons, 95 match win streak. (5-1-1-1) 3x champ, 2x Hodge. Never gave up bonus points, never was pinned. Spencer Lee 98-6, finished career with 1 (full) undefeated season, 47 match win streak (1-1-1-6) 3x champ, 2x Hodge. Pinned twice (Piccinni and Ramos) Is Spencer even behind Bo Nickal? I'd say there's a strong argument Bo had a better career. More wins, fewer losses, better placement and was never bonused. Only knock is Bo *only* won one Hodge. Bo Nickal 120-3, finished career with 2 consecutive undefeated seasons, 67 match win streak (2-1-1-1) 3x champ, 1x Hodge. Never gave up bonus.

Spencer Lee is not a wuss.

Assuming all win tonight: 1. Yianni (4x trumps all) 2. Carr (2x champ, beating a defending national champ 3x this year, including the finals) 3. Parris (most dominant) 4. Starocci (3x champ, undefeated) 5. Brooks (3x champ, 1 loss)

Watch his win over Joseph. It was raw power.