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Montalvo v Hatcher - started with a bam - 6 pts for Montalvo. But now a snooze. Ok. Write that and Hatcher gets a TD. 8-4 Montalvo. 5-8 with stalling against Montalvo. Montalvo is ranked 19? Montalvo, ASU, wins 8-5.

Yea, I ended up thinking about that. Wondered about the application, can rest low and apply, but figure person will still find a way to roll over. Good point.

I’m likely naive —- but on the arm bar question …. Seems like a place to make someone tap - turn into chicken wing, go hard against the shoulder joint. Dislocate shoulder or get a tap? Never seen it in MMA. Could it work?

Wonder if the ‘grind’ would fell less crappy if we just went to mat side weigh-ins. Take the crappiest part of wrestling - the hard weight cuts - out of the picture. I’m no doctor but it might also help prevent injuries - less stress on body. Sorry - don’t mean to derail. But thought it was related.

I remember (vaguely) an interview with Logan Steiner where he was asked about how he spends his day. Talked about practice and playing video games. This was during college. I recall being floored by the lack of academic work during the day. Figured he had few credits and what he had were easy classes. Perhaps RBY is in a similar situation? Back to main topic - 9th year? A perversion of the system. Comically sad. Why even have any rules around it if this is ok? Ridiculous.

Agreed - if the situation is that they would have to lie on a signed form to the NCAA, well, I can see it being a no go. But damn, their handling of the public discussion is a major failure and a black eye. Calls their truthfulness into question. Makes them look like slimy. Frankly, it kinda makes no sense if it all comes down to the issue mentioned above. Such a disconnect that I can’t help to think that there is more to the situation. But that is pure ignorant speculation.

Anyone have a copy of the NPO waiver? For those writing in favor of Wisconsin signing the form in a manner that would allow him to compete this year …. …. Can you say, in an informed and truthful way, that Wisconsin would not have to lie in order to sign the form? If the person signing the form, likely overseen by compliance department, would have to lie, this is an issue. If this is the crux of it, ok. But Wisconsin and Bono in particular have handled this in such a misleading and confusing way it is staightup pitiful.

Flo is doing a crap job by not going into some of the details of what a NPO waiver is and what it means to sign one. If the posts above are correct and aren’t leaving out important details, then this aspect seems to be damn important.

From Flo article “At this point in the process, the only thing that could be done to allow Kyle to compete would be for Wisconsin to agree to a no participation opportunity waiver,” Nebraska executive AD for compliance Jamie Vaughn said. “That’s the only thing left for him now. We’ve exhausted the other possibilities with the NCAA’s waiver processes.” Do we agree that the first part of this statement is correct? (Wisconsin needs to agree to the no participation opportunity waiver) Has Wisconsin stated why they won’t sign it? I’m lost - hoping someone can get me up to speed.

I have not followed this in gory detail but I’ll chime in anyway … One must believe that Bono has compliance advisors that support Wisconsin athletics. He very likely knows exactly what the rules are and the NCAA guidance. I think it highly unlikely that he is ‘confused.’ Those saying this is on Wisconsin staff / admin are, in my opinion, disingenuous. The coach has a lot of say in this and would not be defending Wisconsin’s actions if he felt differently about how it is being handled. Really seems like this is going to burn Bono and WI wrestling. I’m not sure of the facts so can’t take a strong stance on the situation.…. but …. Importantly, the overall buzz and public opinion is really turning against Bono. Ugly reputation hit in the court of public perception.

Thank you. Seems like many threads nowadays lack actual results. I appreciate it.

So says you. They’ve discussed this multiple times over the years. Difficulty in applying the situations has been discussed as part of the problem.

Where does Flo state their rankings don’t have subjective aspects to it? They constantly debate their own rankings on FRL, often commenting that they could see how rankings could be moved around for some wrestlers and make sense. Very much acknowledging the subjectivity. They can use the criteria they want. They saw a wrestling match at the all-star meet and thus are including it. Perfectly reasonable. A match is injury defaulted - was the winner up 12-2 at time of default or was the loser up 12-2? Did the default happen 20 seconds in or with 20 seconds left? Did the injury happen early when loser was up 8-1 but the guy kept wrestling and when defaulted was down 9-13? How would all the situations above be included in the ranking considerations? Other situations? Hard to do this consistently across all the various injury defaults — lots of match detail to study. Perhaps they made decision to simplify and simply not count it. Reasonable to me.

There is a portion of society that finds that entertaining. Makes room for a lot of different entertainers to make some $$$.

Ok. Be ridiculous. Your debate style is noted. There was a ton of great wrestling. Amazing performances. I agree. I made several posts about the matches and many with excitement with the performances. I made one post about ZR and his tongue. Another poster came on here and wrote a lengthy post about how my post was wrong. And that I’m on an enemies list (LOL). His opinion is fair. I explained my position. That is all. Now you come on with ridiculous comparisons. Who is trying to turn this into a dead horse beating and continue to discussion for far longer than it needs to? You. You are.

He should be proud of how he wrestled. I’m very impressed. It is too bad he did what he did at the end. I expect even you could be turned off if he got up and grabbed his crotch in the direction of the Iranian team. He didn’t do this. But just getting across there are degrees of professionalism and class. This hypothetical is far far to an extreme. We appear to differ on where to draw the line. My expectation for our wrestlers, when competing against foreign competition, when wrestling fans from around the world have their eyes on you as a representative of the USA and your fellow US athletes, is apparently different than your expectations.

Very cool to see the 92kg gold medalist go up and challenge the 97kg gold medalist. Snyder looked great. Very good win.

Not good. Savad has answered!! 6-4 Iran. 2 TDs and a gut for Savad. 1 min to go. Come in JB. Come on! 40 sec … 30 … 15 and stopped. 1 pt step out and a caution. 6-6. 9 sec. Iran wins. Wow.

Iranian (Savad) controlling the mat vs Burroughs. Burroughs on clock. Savad blocking off well. But then Burroughs gets down to both ankles. And a turn. Right before shot clock expires. 4-0. when will Savad shoot?

What do you call that TD by Firouz? Pretty cool.

That is smart shot clock acting management by Nolf. Firouz on clock again. Even thought it didn’t work in end. TD Firouz while on clock. 1-2. 50 sec. Nolf needs to fire. Need some magic. Fire and miss. 27 sec. Attempted throw by. Nope. Loses.

Firouz D off of ankle pick was pretty cool!

Well, we will call that a bit lucky. Nice burst by the Iranian there. Call in Pants favor. Per the rules. All good. On review - Pant should have put his head down sooner. Glad he finally did but we should know to get head down there right away.

Pantaleo with some real bursts. Love it. 4-1

Pants hands must be super annoying.