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afaik cornell doesn't use wrestle-offs, but when it was close Koll would appear to use results in early season opens like Kaloust Bearcat at Binghamton or NY States to pick the starter. I thought Chaz Tucker got the starting spot at 133 in 2018-19 by beating Arujau (though to be fair the plan may have been for Arujau to go 125 all along).

What a run. Looking forward to the touching moment at the medal ceremony when Tazhudinov tears up hearing the Bahrain national anthem for the first time.

This is where I came down. What a relief to have this so early in the thread so I can skip to page 9.

this is what i'm trying to avoid you monsters

How do you take a redshirt year at Columbia? Is he taking a year off from school?

rob koll is serious about what he needs to be serious about but also jokes around a lot. i think he was being tongue in cheek about the cost of living in palo alto.

A road i went down too many times on the Old Site. I'm trying to change.

whoops. i thought he had two left. Given the covid year and maybe a med-shirt maybe he has 2 left? idk. i take your point, though.

haha no way man. the wrestling forum's off-topic subforum is no place for an atheist brooklyn socialist. let's just talk about wrestling.

I also don't think he could get Alirez into Stanford. I'm not saying it to be mean but Alirez said after winning the title that he's "not really a school guy" (probably not his exact words but what i remember).

prison is full of them, man.

i get where the conversation is, i just don't care to have a debate about the subtleties of first amendment jurisprudence on a wrestling forum. penn state university would be considered a state actor, subject to whatever limitations the first amendment imposes. it wouldn't cover cael being generally religious in his own life, would cover coerced prayer circles, any further refinement is just going to be a boring back and forth.

penn state is a state school, subject to constitutional rules as a state actor. your response is about what would count as improper "establishment of religion" assuming that it is a state school. no interest in getting into the contours of where those lines are drawn.

oh... hey... didn't expect to run into you here

i can't tell if i took the bait here. goddamit. i really have no idea.

horrible news about the spinal injury

Obvs I'm kidding about Stanford. I'm not actually mad that some of the wrestlers Koll recruited to Cornell followed him to the Cardinal. Maybe about Daniel Cardenas. I am curious how Morgan State performs against Sacred Heart, Queens and Bloomsburg. I don't think they're going to do well against the rest of the D-I slate but I respect the ambition. Cliff Keen! Interesting note: looks like Quincy Monday's backup at Princeton, Jacob Marsh, is an MSU grad transfer (though he's listed as a senior it also says he got a degree in sociology).

i get it. but i wouldn't be opposed to someone DM'ing me and giving me the two sentence version of what i missed, without the contentious editorializing.

right - i get it - but the freeze frame was literally for a digital frame. i've seen worse not called. no sour grapes though. i was more upset that yianni didn't protect the lead and got himself countered twice to throw away the lead rather than semi-stall and run clock.

Yeah i disagreed but i could see why they reversed the call. I think you could argue that his back was exposed for a frame or two but i also think he was in a very twisted position with his face to the mat, holding strong and it wasn't particularly compelling to me. I wasn't surprised, though. The only call i really wanted an explanation of was why the Burroughs singlet-pull brick was considered a timely challenge. And maybe the Marsteller 4, which very easily could have been called 1 for Burroughs. I'd love an explanation of how they judge a step-out in that position.

i've been away from the board for a bit and i was hoping to read some discussion of the event. i understand why you did what you did but i wish you'd used a scalpel instead of a hand grenade.

This is what I mean; the school can monitor compliance but as I understand it they aren't supposed to coordinate opportunities. I think the clearinghouses are a combination compliance system and wink. To be clear, I don't have a problem with any of it either. If it were up to me I'd let the schools openly bid on players.

i'm just saying, in the words of Al Neri while testifying before the Senate Mafia Commission, "yeah, a lot of buffers"

It is explicitly against NCAA rules if coaches or school administrators are involved in NIL deals. Their role is to explain the rules to the athletes. Now, I'm not naive. In practice, I assume (as I've written before) the degree of separation is probably about the same that political campaigns have with "independent" PACs that share the goal of getting the candidate elected. What this means in practice is setting up as many layers of deniability as possible between the boosters and the institution. Ultimately maybe the coach is going to be responsible for the sausage but the coach definitely doesn't want to be crystal clear on how the sausage is getting made.

it is very NOT part of a coach's job to land NIL deals. this would absolutely violate NIL rules. it is the job of the NIL sponsors to keep a squeaky clean paper trail the does not involve the school and coach.