Holtfan

8-6 Iowa after 3 matches

With the first two matches leading to a three-point swing, I don't believe there is enough now for Iowa to overcome.

????? You mean the "Best Pizza in Iowa" qualifier? I recall my first trip to Des Moines, to do work for Casey's on the west side, and they told me of their Pizza. I didn't believe them---because they are Gas Station/Convenience Stores. Boy was I shock---in a good way.

This is, without a doubt, the most intelligent statement made today on this board! And I love the look on peoples face when you tell them it's "Gas Station Pizza".

Yes, but that 29 year old World Team member continued competing. But I get your point....I am just wondering if it's really that much of a difference between a 21 and a 25 year old. And to the rest of what you said, I wholeheartedly agree!

I am not talking about spending 10 years in NCAA D1 competing. I am asking this: What competitive advantage does a 31 year old who hasn't competed in 10 years have over a 21 year old who is likely in his second season in college and hasn't taken time away from competition? Some say "man strength", but I'm not buying that. You don't automatically get stronger just because your are x-years old than someone. Sure, when you are comparing a 13 to 23 year old. But a 23 to 33 year old? Now---start adding into this people who choose to enroll in military service right out of school, and after they do 4-6 years there, decide to go to college. Should we automatically state that they are unable to compete in D1, simply because of age? I know there is certain criteria for when the D1 "clock" starts---missions, military, etc---but should it really matter? What if I graduate HS and decide I want to go to work building cars? And then 10 years down the line, I decide I want to go back to college and get a degree......am I not allowed to enroll in a D1 school and attempt to compete, simply because of the "clock" rule? If I can make the team and compete, shouldn't I be allowed to do so? I will go back to what I said initially----to be the man, you have to beat the man. I don't care if the man is 18 or 28......and there should never have to be an asterisk following any NCAA Champ's name. Just my view from the cheap seats.......

Why does it matter how old someone is when they compete? If someone takes 10 years off from competition, doesn't that put them at a disadvantage? But...... To Be the Man, You Gotta Beat the Man.

I may as well get in on the fun. To me, swing is 149 and 285 -- PSU wins 149, you can put a stamp on it. Iowa wins 149 and it will come to to 285. Additionally--are we certain Brands goes at 174? He was out last week and it almost cost Iowa. 125: Lee fall Steen 6-0 Iowa 133: Bravo-Young mdec Teske 6-4 Iowa 141: Woods mdec Bartlett 10-4 Iowa (S)149: Murin dec Van Ness 13-4 Iowa 157: Haines dec Siebrecht 13-7 Iowa 165: Kennedy dec Facundo 16-7 Iowa 174: Starocci dec Brands 16-10 Iowa or 174: Starocci mdec Rhodes 16-11 Iowa 184: Brooks dec Assad 16-13/16-14 Iowa 197: Dean dec Warner 17-16 PSU/16-16 tie (S)285: Kerkvliet dec Cassioppi 20-16/19-16 PSU

On the challenge, it goes back to where the move didn't change, therefore the clock rolls back to the time before the 2nd tilt. I think that's how it works.........

Amine, after all these years, still doesn't have Facundo figured out.....and it appears he never will.

If he wants to be remember, why not having him wrestle both 125 and 133 in the dual? Oh...sorry....I thought we were discussing ridiculous reasons Spenser Lee needs to impress the fan base.

F excuses. Excuses are for wusses. -Spenser Lee

Found the box finally #3 Michigan 25 - #21 Michigan State 10 Jenison Field House – East Lansing, Mich. 125 | Jack Medley (MICH) dec. #25 Tristan Lujan (MSU) 6-3 | MICH 3-0 133 | #11 Rayvon Foley (MSU) major dec. #5 Dylan Ragusin (MICH) 12-4 | MSU 4-3 141 | #23 Cole Mattin (MICH) major dec. Jordan Hamdan (MSU) 11-3 |MICH 7-4 149 | #20 Chance Lamer (MICH) major dec. Peyton Omania (MSU) 10-2 |MICH 11-4 157 | #23 Chase Saldate (MSU) dec. #8 Will Lewan (MICH) SV-1, 3-1 |MICH 11-7 165 | #6 Cameron Amine (MICH) dec. Caleb Fish (MSU) 3-2 | MICH 14-7 174 | Max Maylor (MICH) dec. Ceasar Garza (MSU) 6-2 | MICH 17-7 184 | #9 Matt Finesilver (MICH) dec. #17 Layne Malczewski (MSU) 10-4 |MICH 20-7 197 | #15 Cameron Caffey (MSU) dec. Brendin Yatooma (MICH) TB-2, 6-5 | MICH 19-10 (TM Point Deduction on MICH – Lack of Control over Mat Area) 285 | #2 Mason Parris (MICH) fall over Ryan Vasbinder (MSU) 4:09 | MICH wins 25-10

Am I the only one who initially read this as "praying attention"?

Sorry, I probably came off dickish---didn't mean to. Nothing on Track, nothing on any of the team pages, and I don't have B1G+......so difficult to know who is facing who.....or is that whom? I do appreciate what you're doing.

Against? Could be helpful if you post who is facing who.....or is that whom?

How does a #1 ranked kid not know how to start, and end up with four false starts in one match? You see that with first year wrestlers---but seasoned ones. Don't fault the official for the last call---like someone stated, if you are in the opposite corner and you see the official point to move up, you likely come unglued questioning the official---and rightly so.