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RBY was quick enough to shoot a low single from an arm back, no tie position. If he never did it I'd be surprised. Regardless it was within the rules and the smart thing to do.

Stalling on Vak - we are discussing the equivalency of the three point stance not Davis's lack of shots or clubbing. Deflection is a good tool for a lawyer though. maybe there would have been more shots by Ayala and Davis without the three point? It was a winning strategy. I don't fault Ayala for using it. It was smart. Not a personal preference but smart.

how many from three point stance? Seriously, I listened to this match on the radio and haven't seen it yet. If he got one I'll concede equivalency (this match only)

In a way - except RBY could get TDs with his arm behind his back. There is that inconvenient truth thing that is problematic for equivalency.

kinda boring 2nd part PSU bias recap 165 - Gas tank vs Gas tank. Messy strikes first! Not being shy shoots again after escape. No three point stance here. Definitely not channeling his inner Bartlett. Iowa has 3 bloody noses in first six bouts? What does Brands do to their noses? Wait stalling on Cal? Revision Gas tank vs tanked. Potential dangerous on Messy leg. Please don't break it. I wanna see him at NCAAs. Good job by Caliendo not mailing in the last 15 seconds. 174 - Star gets 1st TD. Will he dance or dominate going forward? Last second TD. When things are going your way ... Star had 23rd birthday yesterday per radio. Looks like Star will dominate .... Brands (and Rocco from OSU) had a better strategy - never shoot against Star. Just hand fight. Kennedy best offense so far is locked hands and stall by Carter. Kennedy still attacking. Good for him. oh oh .... opened the door to more stallrachi posts. 184 - TruOx could be a good nickname but does not fit his style. Bernie stall! OMG. Well, it is Carver. Bernie better pin or he may stall out. Kinda ugly (major) win. Guess I'm entitled and showing my blue and white privilege. 197 - Opening period. Yawn. Wow. Shooting on Brooks turns out badly for most. Glazier respectable but only because Brooks had flu - you can only tell because Brooks has tape on his elbow and is short. Blue collar, no drama victory. HW - The great hawk hope for Iowa next. 110 - 0 high school hope. Quick three for Kerk. Escape is a good sign for Iowa future. Not riding Kerk very long a sign that he is not ready for prime time.

Look inside a PSU fans stream-of-consciousness at the midpoint 125 - Cael needs to drill Davis on the got behind and attack the stalling three point wrestler counter. I think the best counter is the "don't-get-behind-the-wanker-that-uses-it" technque. I'm ok with batting the guys head doing this but it doesn't get you any points. Rule change should be that when someone goes to three point stance the opposing wrestler should be awarded use of a baseball bat. 133 - Hard to call stalling on top against a guy who wins 11-0. But this is Carver so maybe. 141 - Bartlett knows how to slow a pace down without going to a 3 point stance. Carver stalling call. Surprised that Barlett didn't get called for stalling for not getting that double leg fast enough. I mean, it is Carver. 149 - Stalll warning for defending a shot against Kasak. I mean, it is Carver. Kasak looking Cavered. But he is a true frosh. Stall against Iowa. Wait. This is Carver. SV. Tied at 8. Match of the night! Forget about Carvered. OK SV. But liking Kasak's future! He was NOT Carvered. He just might make noise later. 157 - Iowa stalling? What is happening here. Levi only has 1:40 riding time after 1. Levi heavy hips might have broken Franek. Franek stalling for a point .... Gable's hip must be vibrating wildly in its socket. 12- 0 major. Whops. Slumping Haines pace still good enough.

My view of the match - It took seven minutes for the mat repellent on Rocco's knees to wear off. Around the last minute you see Carter look at the clock and think "OK, Not getting the tech so I may as well dance away the night cause I'm good with the win and him continuing to do nothing". Rocco then does a few theatrical knee touches in the last minute (see, they can bend ref - I'm really trying) and comes away happy with his moral victory. Rocco's a good hand fighter and defensive stud from neutral but to really have a chance against Carter he will need to generate at least one real honest shot. Only a freshman so it could develop and make him a real threat. More likely scenerio this year is Rocco opens up and Carter gives him a lesson when then meet again.

Can Ridge predict what Gomez will try before Gomez gets the idea?

I've got nothing.

That OSU didn't lose a team point supports that there was a handshake at 11:05 (there must be no requirement that two wrestlers have to be in the circle when the winners arm is raised I guess). But since the camera was fixated on Ryan the mime handshake, which was the observation that I observed, was not captured.

You're right. Taylor's actual accomplishments coupled with Pico's most recent fantasy victories have moved Pico to the top ranking. Taylor is clearly regressing. Maybe he needs to change to a different RTC.

I was there, and it's possible (but in my opinion unlikely because Davis was in the PSU corner) that I missed a very early handshake because there was a lot of discussion in the stands at the time and my head may have been turned away. But I can say for sure that Kilkeary was not on the mat any time close to when Davis had his arm raised and Davis did the mime handshake with a pretend Kilkeary.

The post match handshake was fun. Davis shook hands with an imaginary Kilkaery since the real one didn't bother.

Whoa - didn't expect Pico to rack up additional forum fantasy match victories. His longevity is unmatched. Most impressive! Looking forward to seeing whether or not he continues the streak in 2025.

I responded to Fishbane before I saw your post. Thanks for refreshing my memory about this controversy. Transfering was a win - win for Jenkins and PSU. Not at all fair to be counted as one of Cael's errors in my opinion.

IMHO when evaluating whether or not to recruit over someone looking at the future upside (entire career) of the two wresters is the way to go, so you're right, our criteria differs off the bat. Since PSU won in 2011 it is hard for me to say Cael was wrong. Your arguments are plausible - but for me only for one year and only if some assumptions are made. ~ Why was Bubba asked to leave the team? My understanding (and I have no inside information) is that the real reason Bubba left PSU was that he broke team rules. What team rules? Cael and Bubba have different versions of what transpired. If team rules were broken and Bubba was challenging the coaching staff would awarding Bubba the spot at 157 been the right LT move? ~ Would Taylor have stayed if he was compelled to go to 167? If he was winning in the room? As a RS freshman was Taylor ready for the move up? In final anaylsis, I can't argue with results. Cael won in 2011 and built a foundation for a strong run in years after. You may be right but its a bridge too far for me.

I would take Talyor's and Deans's contributions to PSU over Bubba and Beard. Beard has the opportunity to build a case this season. But Bubba over Taylor's two titles, four finals, tournament bonus points and post graduations contribution to the RTC? One match may have ending well for Bubba's revenge fantasy but does not rise close to being a recuiting error! Cael's judgement was spot on in these instances.

Depends on the level of Brand's base of opoerations relative to Cael for issuing statements. If Brand's operates out of hell, as as implied by some on this forum, then prossibly not. Unless Mormans occupy a lower level of hell then Hawkeyes. After I die I'll fully expolore hell and post some answers provided I can go low enought to find Cinnanbon and hack his computer. Post could be at any time soon because I'm a boomer.

Well the Brands quote from the article is “I know one thing — we’ve got a lot of guys upstairs who are ready to go because of what happened, ..." The assumption that they are drilling was aspirational and soley mine. They may actually be upstairs logged onto a gambling site as far as I know.

The best news in this article is that a lot of Tom's guys are upstairs drilling.

he has a future playing a Lord of The Rings Dwarf character in a remake

I'm fine with Jason Nolf being number two in the United States at 74 kg behind Kyle Dake (not my favorite wrestler). But hopefully Nolf gets even better.

Yes and I actually considered this when I did my thought experiment. Curious who would make or evade a pick as well.

Interesting counterpoint. Here's a truth-teller poll, if your daughter asked your advice regarding four possibilities, which would one would you advise her to marry? A) Downey B) AJ C) DeSanto D) Brooks For me its D) and (based on my limited exposure) I'd be happy for her. Not even close.

For mentioning a disgraced FB coach in a wrestling thread you've won the spot of ultimate Heel team fanboy. Congrats.