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Done.

Might as well show us with our proper attire, mate...

It is disappointing how often grown people (adults) think someone is calling them stupid when they are told of their ignorance. It means 'Not knowing' rather than 'YeR a DuMdUm GuMdrOp.' Children are ignorant until they learn. The same rule can be applied to adults. Some are just irreparable and choose a hateful, ignorant mindset.

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Isaiah White entered the Bill Farrell at 74 KG.

Sorry... was a lot of copy/paste. I know it is Jordan. Feel like a boob now.

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/11242319-usa-wrestling-releases-full-2024-olympic-team-qualification-procedures

So the Bill Farrell qualifies the highest placing American who hasn't qualified yet. So in theory, one or none could quailfy. Senior Naitonals in December qualify the Top 7 and I believe that if you are already qualified you cannot enter? Not sure there. After that there is last chance, which is the week between NCAAs and OTT. Only one goes from there and you have to have not qualified to be able to enter.

Aye, yeah - Plott going 184lbs cements him at 86 KG for me, though. Zapf and Chlebove. What weight do you think for them?

Do you think he heads down? I assumed he would look to fill out 157 and then go up.

I am secretly hoping that ThugMassa G shows up as ThicccMassa and wrecks some fools. He was an Elementary PE teacher for a few months the last time he came back, though. So I'm not sure his training situation.

I think McClane and Negron will battle it out with the loser seeing time at 174. Both will have comparable results at either weight and neither will likely qualify at 174. If I could choose, I would send Teemer out at 165 with McClane at 157 and Negron at 174. That said, Teemer is a contender at 157. He is mid-AA peak at 165.

Here are some notes for the 'Tweener' Weights... Again, feel free to add, gents. 61 KG: - Vito Arujau - 57 KG - World Medalist, sitting out to the Semi-Finals and I think it will be at 57 KG (despite me wanting him to go up) - Nahshon Garrett - 65 KG - He just couldn't make it to 57 KG last time... I think he focuses on 65 KG and moves forward - Daton Fix - 57 KG - Writing is on the wall for him to drop - Austin DeSanto - 65 KG - I think if he drops we see a rate reductiong from him... needs to go up - Seth Gross - 57 KG - His last go? We have seen him up at 65 KG recently too, but last Oly he went 57 KG - Nathan Tomasello - 57 KG - I can't imagine him at 65 KG. - Joe Colon - 57 KG - Writing is on the wall... he is done after this one and his best shot is 57 KG - Dan DeShazer - 57 KG - I think we see him make an attempt to drop - Tyler Graff - 65 KG - He couldn't go down before when he was younger and opted for MGR... if we see him in MFS it will be at 65 KG - Shelton Mack - 57 KG - Another guy who just wouldn't sniff a match at 65 KG - Josh Rodriguez - 57 KG - Seems to have grown out of 57 KG, but I don't see him being able to run at 65 KG - Cody Brewer - 65 KG - I don't think we see him, but if we do I imagine it will be up at 65 KG - Nico Megaludis - 57 KG - I don't know that we see him, either, but if we do it will be down at 57 KG - Aden Valencia - 65 KG - He is up at 138lbs for this HS season, so I expect him to go up - Aaron Nagao - 65 KG - I don't think we see him - Sam Latona - 65 KG - If he happens to win NCAAs, or qualify in some other manner, I expect him to go up. He is already too big for 133... - Chris Cannon - 57 KG - Not sure that we see him... or even what weight he goes if we do... - Nic Bouzakis - 57 KG - He is a Greco guy, so I kind of anticipate him giving 60 KG or 63 KG a go, being as they are closer to his weight than MFS offers - Lucas Byrd - 65 KG - There was a rumor he would go up to 141lbs this season, so I will bite on that one... - Benjamin Davino - Too young? 70 Kilograms - Zain Retherford - 74 KG - World Medalist, sitting out to the Semi-Finals at Weight of Choice... calling 74 KG - James Green - 65 KG - A lot of folks are saying 65 KG for him, but I haven't seen anything from him. I think 74 KG is better for him, though. - Ryan Deakin - 74 KG - If we see him, there isn't a fart's chance in a shit storm we see him below 70 KG. - Tyler Berger - 74 KG - He is already scheduled to compete at 74 KG. - Sammy Sasso - 74 KG - I don't think we see him... unfortunately. - Alec Pantaleo - 65 KG - He has said multiple times that he is a 65 KG guy. I don't see how he makes it, but I haven't read anything otherwise. - Jarrett Jacques - 74 KG - Already registered at the BF for 74 KG - Hayden Hidlay - 74 KG - He has been a 74 KG guy when he wasn't a 70 KG guy. Not sure we see him, though. He may be focused on coaching now. - Jaydin Eierman - 65 KG - If he is healthy, 65 KG is his weight to go. I would expect him to contend, too. - Jared Verkleeren - 74 KG - I don't think we see him. He is too small for 74 KG and too big for 65 KG. - Ed Scott - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG. - Shayne Van Ness - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG at this point, right? - Kyle Parco - 65 KG - I think he could be a factor... he's so fast and slick - Caleb Henson - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG. - Brock Mauller - 65 KG - True Tweener here... not sure which way he goes and I don't think he is successful either way, if he does... - Jackson Arrington - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG. - Chance Lamer - 65 KG - I think he knows that 74 KG is too big for him. - Levi Haines - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG. - Jared Franek - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG. - Peyton Robb - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG. - Bryce Andonian - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG. - Will Lewan - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG. - Dan Cardenas - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG. - Chase Saldate - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG. - Paddy Gallagher - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG. - Cody Chittum - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG. - Meyer Shapiro - 74 KG - On the fence here. - LaDarion Locket - Too young? - PJ Duke - Too young? 79 KG: - Chance Marsteller - 86 KG - I may have it backwards, but I am pretty sure he said he was going up in one of his World Team Camp interviews - Jordan Burroughs - 74 KG - Already scheduled to compete at 74 KG... I think it's to see how he feels after the cut. We may see a change? - Alex Dieringer - 86 KG - Guy is swole AF. No way he makes 74 KG. - David McFadden - 86 KG- Guy is made for 79 KG. I don't see him dropping. - Carter Starocci - 74 KG - He said himself he is dropping. - Chris Foca - 86 KG - We have seen him at 86 KG in the past (10-0 over Max Dean) - Mekhi Lewis - 86 KG - I don't know if we see him. If he goes 184 I think the liklihood of him going Freestyle are better. - Alex Marinelli - 74 KG - He has been competing at 79 KG so he didn't have to cut, methinks. - Michael Kemerer - 74 KG - He isn't big or strong enough for 86 KG. I am happy to be wrong, though. - Taylor Lujan - 86 KG - See McFadden. He was made for 79 KG and I don't see him dropping. - Devin Skatzka - 86 KG - Seems already written in stone - Isaiah White - 74 KG - Not sure we see him, but if we do it should be down - Mike Labriola - 86 KG - Unless he has already begun his decent, he isn't making 74 KG. Too big. - Nelson Brands - 86 KG - Not sure we see him, but if we do I think he goes up. He has outgrown 74 KG. - Carson Kharchla - 74 KG - He is a 74 KG guy for freestyle, if we see him. - Donnell Washington - 86 KG - Too big for 74 KG. - Edmond Ruth - 86 KG - Too big for 74 KG. - Peyton Mocco - 74 KG - I don't see him going up, if he goes. - Michael O'Malley - 86 KG - Not sure I see a drop at this point in his career. - Cael Valencia - 86 KG - I think he is already going up. - Angelo Ferrari - Too young? - Josh Barr - 86 KG - Penn State guy... lot of age level competition - Rocco Welsh - 86 KG - A gamer... lot of age level competition - Gabe Arnold - 86 KG - Iowa guy... lot of age level competition 92 Kilograms - Zahid Valencia - 86 KG - Sitting out until the semi-finals already - Mike Macchiavello - 97 KG - Too big for 86 KG - Kollin Moore - 97 KG - Too big for 86 KG - Nate Jackson - 97 KG - Too big for 86 KG - Eric Schultz - 86 KG - This is a stretch for me. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go up. - Jay Aiello - 97 KG - Too big for 86 KG - Morgan McIntosh - 86 KG - We expected him at 86 KG for the Open (he was entered there) - Tanner Sloan - 97 KG - He has been a staple on the age-level at 97 KG for a while now - Jacob Cardenas - 97 KG - He could be a sleeper... has a lot of Freestyle success and isn't afraid of anybody - Stephen Buchanan - 86 KG - Not sure what to expect here... just don't think he is that big. - Rocky Elam - 97 KG - I don't know if he can make 86 KG anymore, but he would be a Darkhorse there... - Jaxon Smith - 97 KG - I think he is too big for 86 KG - Michael Beard - 97 KG - Large frame points towards him going up... would not be surprised to see him go down, though - Gavin Hoffman - 86 KG - His frame points towards 86 KG for me, but I would not be surprised to see him go up. - Jacob Warner - 97 KG - Not sure how he made 197lbs... - AJ Ferrari - 97 KG - Was 97 KG the last time out...

Here are some notes for the gents already at the Olympics weights... Circuit Veteran just means he has been pretty active the last year or so... 57 KG: - Zane Richards - World Teamer - Thomas Gilman - World Teamer - Nick Suriano - Past NCAA Champ - Spencer Lee - Past NCAA Champ - Jakob Camacho - NCAA Contender - Cooper Flynn - On Oly-shirt - Patrick Glory - Past NCAA Champ - Caleb Smith - US Open Placer - Austin Assad - US Open Placer - Stevo Poulin - US Open Placer - Matt Ramos - NCAA Contender - Richie Figueroa - NCAA Contender - Drake Ayala - NCAA Contender - Michael DeAugustino - NCAA Contender (Michigan) - Patrick McKee - NCAA Contender - Jore Volk - NCAA Contender - Troy Spratley - NCAA Contender - Gregor Diakomihalis - Cornell, also a Diak - Brett Ungar - Cornell - Jax Forrest - Too young? - Luke Lilledal - Too young? - Anthony Knox - Too young? - Marcuz Blaze - Too young? 65 KG: - Nick Lee - World Teamer - Yianni Diakomihalis - World Teamer - Joey McKenna - Perennial Contender - Matthew Kolodzkik - US Open Placer - Beau Bartlett - US Open Placer - Anthony Ashnault - US Open Placer - Evan Henderson - US Open Placer - Luke Pletcher - Circuit Veteran - Ian Parker - Circuit Veteran - Pat Lugo - Circuit Veteran - Josh Saunders - Circuit Veteran - Cole Matthews - NCAA Contender - Brandon Wright - Circuit Veteran - Andrew Alirez - On Oly-shirt - Real Woods - I am pretty stoked to see him give it a go on the Senior level. - Brock Hardy - A very strong top game in Folkstyle... does it translate well into Freestyle? - Jesse Mendez - You know he is going to try to throw his hat in the ring... do we see him contending straight away? - Vince Cornella - A horse, but not sure what to expect on the Freestyle scene - Dylan Ragusin - Too small? Not sure what we will get from him this year if up at 141. - Ridge Lovett - Will probably be right in the thick of it... - Casey Swiderski - Too big? He can handle the horse at 74 KG, but I think he is a bit too small for it at this point - Dylan D'Emilio - Circuit Veteran - Daniel Zepeda - Too young? - Dylan Gilcher - Michigan - Pierson Manville - Too young? 74 KG: - Kyle Dake - World Medalist, Sitting out to Day 2 Best of Three - Jason Nolf - Final X Runner-UP - Vincenzo Joseph - US Open Placer - Kegan O-Toole - NCAA Contender, Age group medalist - Josh Shields - Circuit Veteran - Derek Gilcher - US Open Placer - Tommy Gantt - Circuit Veteran - Julian Ramirez - Circuit Veteran - Joe Lavallee - Circuit Veteran - David Carr - NCAA Contender, Age group medalist - Cam Amine - NCAA Contender, Michigan, Is an Amine - Jacori Teemer - NCAA Contender - Dean Hamiti - NCAA Contender - Mike Caliendo - NCAA Contender - Peyton Hall - Circuit Veteran - Caleb Fish - Circuit Veteran - Bubba Wilson - Circuit Veteran - Alex Facundo- Age group medalist - Shane Griffith - NCAA Contender - Luka Wick - A Wick? - Joe Sealey - Penn State - Mitch Messenbrink - Penn State - Joe Lee - Penn State - Matt Lee - Penn State - Patrick Kennedy - NCAA Contender - Logan Massa - ThugMassa G 86 KG: - David Taylor - World Medalist, Sitting out to Day 2 Best of Three - Aaron Brooks - Final X Runner-UP - Mark Hall - Perennial Contender - Trent Hidlay - US Open Placer, Perennial Contender, Circuit Veteran - Gabe Dean - Perennial Contender - Max Dean - Circuit Veteran - Drew Foster - Circuit Veteran - Myles Martin - Circuit Veteran - Parker Keckeisen - NCAA Contender - Bernie Truax - NCAA Contender - Trey Munoz - NCAA Contender - Dustin Plott - NCAA Contender, Circuit Veteran - Abe Assad - Iowa - Patrick Downey - Past World Teamer 97 KG: - Kyle Snyder - World Medalist, Sitting out to Day 2 Best of Three - J’den Cox - World Teamer - Silas Allred - NCAA Contender, Circuit Veteran - Isaac Trumble - Circuit Veteran - Ben Kueter - Future? - TJ Dudley - Perennial Contender, Circuit Veteran 125 KG: - Mason Parris - World Medalist, Sitting out to Day 2 Best of Three - Gable Steveson - Instant Favorite if competing - Hayden Zillmer - World Teamer - Nick Gwiazdowski - World Teamer - Dom Bradley - Circuit Veteran - Greg Kerkvliet - NCAA Contender - Wyatt Hendrickson - NCAA Contender - Lucas Davison - NCAA Contender - Tony Cassioppi - NCAA Contender - Cohlton Schultz - NCAA Contender - Demertius Thomas - Circuit Veteran - Ty Walz - Circuit Veteran, Retired? - Christian Lance - Circuit Veteran - Zach Elam - Circuit Veteran - Luke Luffman - Circuit Veteran - Josh Wood - Circuit Veteran - Owen Trephan - Circuit Veteran - Josh Heindselman - Circuit Veteran - Grady Griess - Circuit Veteran - Nick Feldman - Future? - Christian Carroll - Future? - Dayton Pitzer - Future? - Hunter Catka - Future? - Koy Hopke- Too Young? - Aden Attao - Circuit Veteran, Future?

Greetings All, Spey, while he didn't have the testicular fortitude to make his own 'predictions' on where out non-Oly gents will go, he did do a write up of it and it will apply to this thread... https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/11280817-up-or-down-to-which-olympic-weight-goes-the-tweeners Below is a list of gents that I imagine will try to make a go at qualifying for OTT, in some way shape or form either via qualification tournaments leading up or being contenders at their NCAA weight class. I know I missed some, just don't know who... and I am all ears when hearing what folks think of each OLYMPIC WEIGHTS 57 KG: - Zane Richards - Thomas Gilman - Nick Suriano - Spencer Lee - Jakob Camacho - Cooper Flynn - Patrick Glory - Caleb Smith - Austin Assad - Stevo Poulin - Matt Ramos - Richie Figueroa - Drake Ayala - Michael DeAugustino - Patrick McKee - Jore Volk - Troy Spratley - Jax Forrest - Luke Lilledal - Anthony Knox - Marcuz Blaze 65 KG: - Nick Lee - Yianni Diakomihalis - Joey McKenna - Matthew Kolodzkik - Beau Bartlett - Anthony Ashnault - Evan Henderson - Luke Pletcher - Ian Parker - Pat Lugo - Josh Saunders - Cole Matthews - Brandon Wright - Andrew Alirez - Real Woods - Brock Hardy - Jesse Mendez - Vince Cornella - Dylan Ragusin - Ridge Lovett - Casey Swiderski - Dylan D'Emilio - Daniel Zepeda - Dylan Gilcher - Pierson Manville 74 KG: - Kyle Dake - Jason Nolf - Vincenzo Joseph - Kegan O-Toole - Josh Shields - Derek Gilcher - Tommy Gantt - Julian Ramirez - Joe Lavallee - David Carr - Cam Amine - Jacori Teemer - Dean Hamiti - Mike Caliendo - Peyton Hall- Matthew Olguin - Caleb Fish - Bubba Wilson - Alex Facundo - Shane Griffith - Luka Wick - Joe Sealey - Mitch Messenbrink - Joe Lee - Matt Lee - Patrick Kennedy - Logan Massa 86 KG: - David Taylor - Aaron Brooks - Mark Hall - Trent Hidlay - Gabe Dean - Max Dean - Drew Foster - Myles Martin - Parker Keckeisen - Bernie Truax - Trey Munoz - Dustin Plott - Abe Assad - Patrick Downey 97 KG: - Kyle Snyder - J’den Cox - Silas Allred - Isaac Trumble - Ben Kueter - TJ Dudley 125 KG: - Mason Parris - Gable Steveson - Hayden Zillmer - Nick Gwiazdowski - Dom Bradley - Greg Kerkvliet - Wyatt Hendrickson - Lucas Davison - Tony Cassioppi - Cohlton Schultz - Demertius Thomas - Ty Walz - Christian Lance - Zach Elam - Luke Luffman - Josh Wood - Owen Trephan - Josh Heindselman - Grady Griess - Nick Feldman - Christian Carroll - Dayton Pitzer - Hunter Catka - Koy Hopke - Aden Attao NON-OLYMPIC WEIGHTS 61 KG: - Vito Arujau - Nahshon Garrett - Daton Fix - Austin DeSanto - Seth Gross - Nathan Tomasello - Joe Colon - Dan DeShazer - Shelton Mack - Josh Rodriguez - Cody Brewer - Nico Megaludis - Aden Valencia - Aaron Nagao - Sam Latona - Chris Cannon - Nic Bouzakis - Lucas Byrd - Benjamin Davino 70 Kilograms - Zain Retherford - James Green - Ryan Deakin - Tyler Berger - Sammy Sasso - Alec Pantaleo - Jarrett Jacques - Hayden Hidlay - Jaydin Eierman - Jared Verkleeren - Ed Scott - Shayne Van Ness - Kyle Parco - Caleb Henson - Brock Mauller - Jackson Arrington - Chance Lamer - Levi Haines - Jared Franek - Peyton Robb - Bryce Andonian - Will Lewan - Dan Cardenas - Chase Saldate - Paddy Gallagher - Cody Chittum - Meyer Shapiro - LaDarion Locket - PJ Duke 79 KG: - Chance Marsteller - Jordan Burroughs - Alex Dieringer - David McFadden - Carter Starocci - Chris Foca - Mekhi Lewis - Alex Marinelli - Michael Kemerer - Taylor Lujan - Devin Skatzka - Isaiah White - Mike Labriola - Nelson Brands - Carson Kharchla - Donnell Washington - Edmond Ruth - Peyton Mocco - Michael O'Malley - Cael Valencia - Angelo Ferrari - Josh Barr - Rocco Welsh - Gabe Arnold 92 Kilograms - Zahid Valencia - Mike Macchiavello - Kollin Moore - Nate Jackson - Eric Schultz - Jay Aiello - Morgan McIntosh - Tanner Sloan - Jacob Cardenas - Stephen Buchanan - Rocky Elam - Jaxon Smith - Michael Beard - Gavin Hoffman - Jacob Warner - AJ Ferrari

Love it, Claunch! Thank you for this! As an aside, we do have a Michigan specific club here on this forum and have already started posting some things to the 2023-24 portion of it. If anyone cares to take a gander... https://intermatwrestle.com/forums/forum/24-2023-2024-university-of-michigan/

Greetings All, Take a look at KC's preview for Michigan for this upcoming season. Kevin Claunch is also the co-host for one of the best, and my favorite, wrestling podcast. Give them a look, if you haven't yet. http://www.bloodround.com/playlist

Don't worry. We never made eye contact.

I mean... you're verifying she has had both mine and yours. I see that as an absolute win.

Yeah. This was all fun and games...

I think we should allow Ban to have the last word. It seems like the right thing to do at this point.

I feel I must apologize to @Ban Basketball. While I like going back and forth with you, it isn't anything derived in hate or even down that path. It is more just... differing opinions and our keyboards make us think we have the biggest D... I am going to concede to you on the 'bet' because at the end of the day I know we're both fans of the sport and I don't actually believe you're a bad person. This other cunt up here, though... H.F.S.

I have Maga-ism. I am black. You don't need to also associate racism there. What he's doing and saying is quite different and quite evil.

I think you should do Cornell - in my unbiased opinion then you should head to ACCs to see VTech and UNC.

Stalrocci won't return for a 5th season at 174lbs. O'Toole will beat him if he does.