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A freakin men. Get rid of the moral hazard.

Maybe it isn't a weight issue, or just a weight issue?

Not wrong at all. The "it" you are referring to is not the "it" Paul was referring to. The "it" Paul is referring to is using existing programs and laws to forgive debt. The "it" you are referring to was Biden's attempt to blanket waive student debt.

No part of what @Paul158 complained about is extra-legal, Supreme Court overruled, executive order. So, yes I overlooked that because it was not the point.

Another oldie, but goodie: President Trump has offered to forgive some student loan debt as part of a new $1.8 trillion stimulus proposal to House Democrats, indicating how rapidly the idea of cancelling student debt has gained broad, bipartisan appeal. Trump’s latest attempt to revive stimulus talks comes after he abruptly pulled the plug on congressional negotiations last week. The administration is now proposing that $25 billion of the $1.8 trillion package be dedicated to student loan forgiveness.

See Trump, Donald J. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/27/business/trump-chicago-taxes.html#:~:text=Trump's 401 Mezz Venture reported,reflect the unpaid Fortress sum. "Mr. Trump’s federal tax returns, as well as loan documents filed in Cook County, Ill., provide clues to what happened: Mr. Trump was let off the hook for about $270 million. It was the type of generous financial break that few American companies or individuals could ever expect to receive, especially without filing for bankruptcy protection." and "Mr. Trump’s 401 Mezz Venture reported about $181 million in canceled debts. Two years later, DJT Holdings, an umbrella company that the Chicago project had been folded into, reported that another $105 million of debt had been forgiven. Most of that appears to reflect the unpaid Fortress sum." and "In many ways, it repeated a pattern that had played out more than a decade earlier at Mr. Trump’s Atlantic City casinos: a cycle of defaulting on debts and then persuading already-burned lenders to cut him a break."

Where are you seeing brackets? I have not been able to locate them. Track is still blank. This USAW article from today has him listed as probable still. https://www.themat.com/news/2024/april/12/olympic-trials-preview-olympic-champ-taylor-awaits-talented-challenger-in-86-kg-finals-series

It will be nice when Amazon makes it to Wisconsin

You would also need to know the scores prior to any pinfalls to determine if they would have ended by TF prior to the PF.

You are right. I missed adding Williams extra half point. Good catch. 172 is the new 170.

No. He was not the greatest wrestler of his time, not even remotely close, so how can he be in the conversation all-time?

The bracket on wrestlingstats and the NWHOF (same bracket) is problematic. I eventually came to the conclusion that Lincoln McIlravy's TF were actually MT. I am pretty convinced on one of them and fairly convinced on the other. That brings his total down a point. There is a more contemporaneous bracket on the UNI website for the tournament (I can't believe it still exists) I used to come to this conclusion. I cover it in excruciating detail in the below thread. In that thread there is also some phenomenal information from @gimpeltf who worked the scoring table at that tournament.

I think so too. I feel like running a big club, managing kids and parents, setting up rules and expectations, all are part of the college equation. If he takes this job, all of college wrestling has to be excited for the possibilities.

Re-scoring using today's rules 1986 Iowa would have had +13 bonus points, +4 placement points, and -7 advancement points for a net gain of +10, putting them at 168 total points and just shy of the 171.5 adjusted points for 1997 Iowa and the 172.5 points for 2024 PSU.

I think on Monday, but not 100% on that

I had forgotten how strange these OTT brackets are when there is a semi-finalist laying in wait. The way they have it set up means at 57kg: Arujau gets a triple bye, Richards and Suriano get a double bye, Fix and Gilman get a single bye, The #5, #8, #9, #12 all get a single bye, But the #6, #7, #10, #11 do not get a bye. At 65kg: Retherford gets a triple bye, Lee gets a double bye, Alirez and Diakomihalis get a single bye, The #4, #5, #8, #9, #12, #13 all get a single bye, But the #6, #7, #10, #11 do not get a bye.

I hope you are happy, you just got another intern fired.

Only if he is doing it right.

My spirit animal.

The answer to the question, who scored more, is the same as the answer to the question, what kind of underwear does @BobDole wear, boxers or briefs? Depends. You have a couple of errors. Advancement points were awarded in 1997 at the same level as today, 1 for the championship round and 0.5 for the consolation round. The only difference was that in 1997 it was treated as a 64 man bracket when there were more than 32 wrestlers. That meant there was an extra advancement point on the championship side and an extra 0.5 advancement points on the consolation side for just the brackets with >32. The other main difference was in 1997 you only got 1 bonus point for a tech fall without back points. Adjusting for those differences by re-scoring Iowa using today's method gets you 171.5. The only question, then, is were bonus easier to come by this year? That is where "Depends" comes in. Yes, it was easier to get majors and tech falls, but the increase in tech falls appears to have had an unintended consequence. The number of pin falls dropped. The obvious explanation would be that getting to a tech fall faster meant there wasn't as much opportunity to pin fall an overmatched opponent. But bonus points are somewhat volatile from year to year. So, was this just a down year for bonus that was lifted a little by the easier major and tech? Or was this a normal bonus year where we traded off pin falls for tech falls, thereby offsetting the increase in majors?

Outrageous

Your claim outrages me.

There are other factors than just style that drive relative viewership. I think school affiliation is a huge part of the interest. Just read this board to see how important school is to fans.

Weak

You missed the biggest one of all. They recruited Truax over a 3x champ. Forced him to bump up if he wanted to make the team. Real cold stuff from Sanderson.