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No. I have plenty, you just want things to be like they used to and are annoyed coaches are adjusting

I don’t feel like writing paragraphs explaining how long the season is and how hard it is on the body. Especially if the only focus is on NCAAs because of the current culture and incentive structure. That the season is too long is not at all a new discussion for college coaches, athletes, and those closely involved

Yes, the season has always been too long. Irregardless of whether or not people had stat padding matches

It’s the length of the season period

Again, if you’re going to focus on that so be it. I answered your question and gave you my answer. Blame your post history for why I’m wary of you

I gave you an answer beyond that. If you’re going to hyper focus on that so be it

Seems early for a state tournament?

Sigh, if you want everyone to agree that there should be mat side weigh-ins . I already said I’m okay with them. I just don’t think that will fix psycho dads dragging johnny around the country and making them hate the sport. Again, leaving aside you are conveniently ignoring what I’ve said already. As well as the fact you’ll become a cry bully if it becomes convenient. underlying problems: 1. A significant subsection of wrestling people don’t actually “really” want to grow the sport. They don’t want a world where a kid who joins after 6th grade can’t catch the kid who started earlier. Those people almost always are the most vocal against things like; mat side weigh ins, two pieces, girls wrestling, not immediately running psycho practices, and not running off new kids. 2. coaches/ wrestling people not being willing to play “politics” and/or understand basic things like no one wants to be at tournaments for 12 hours. 3. wrestling people doing the tuff guy attitude but also playing the victim and acting entitled. 4. The current focus on “just” NCAA and state results leading to all these forfeits and dodging marquee matchups I could go in but I’m trying to enjoy new years

Happy new year

Leaving aside I gave a list of bigger structural issues that lead to much bigger issues that and/or directly cause weight cutting.. Number one issue. People not confronting the actual problems head on because they’re buddies with people doing some of the things. The rest depend on how you approach the sport. And how honestly people want to confront the issues. And how sensitive they are to criticism.

I don’t disagree. But I think people keep dancing around the bigger issues

What part of what I said had anything to do if people started the sport in hs or not

Mat side weigh ins won’t fix 1. Wrestling dads producing more and more kids that hate the sport and don’t let their kids wrestle. Which leaves aside the fact that the worst wrestling dads sucked at and/or never wrestled 2. Coaches focusing on poaching rather than actually coaching the kids they have 3. youth coaches focusing on “winning” rather than numbers and retention 4. club dads and coaches being the most vocal opponents of things to make wrestling more accessible would may side weigh ins be good? Sure. Do they fix the actual issues. Debatable

Basketball didn’t magically take over. Their guys became ADs and into state associations and the NCAA. Same with football. they made strategic decisions and played the “filthy politics” that wrestling coaches won’t. Wrestling in America put itself in the position it’s in currently. The same way that it wasn’t really Title IX that cut a lot of programs. It was having the team of assholes with bad grades at many of those colleges. if people want wrestling to be a niche sport so they can claim tuff guy superiority and not risk more guys like Burroughs beating out their special “prodigy” they dragged around the country.. that’s fine. He’ll there’s posters who never wrestled on this forum who very openly make that their whole thing. but I’m sick of this narrative that wrestling is a “victim” and could “never” be more than it is and could “never ever” compete with the bigger sports. it’s a cop out and has a mentality exactly the opposite of what wrestling people claim to have.

Going forward. Less and less likely. but it’s hard to to get mad when it’s the natural by product of the way wrestling is going

Wrestling in America needs to make a choice. Do they want it to be the inclusive amazing sport that could actually compete with basketball and football if managed correctly.. or.. do they want it to be a rich kid and/or psycho dad, club sport that is “niche”. people will get triggered or offended if they want. But that’s honestly becoming the main question facing the sport

I still am not confident Lee can wrestle 3-5 matches against top 20 level opponents. Especially if it’s only 2-0 after the first Also, I honestly think Gilman would destroy Lee right now.

I know. But it’s like magic. I start posting. Suddenly I have to do other things

Reina is doing a great job at Penn

Really hoping Byrd can win it this year

Lol. I hate going to the north side. I thought it was funny how almost all the gentrified north side neighborhoods became ghosts towns after the riots and most of the south side especially (Garfield Ridge, Hyde Park, Mt.Gr/Beverly) just chugged along

You know half of them would be scared to go to Beverly despite it being nicer and safer than most of the south suburbs. And top notch is amazing

That’s why I also talked about using 11 weights in the dual meets. There’s no perfect way to avoid ducks

I had a dual meet come down to one team point the other day. My parents were naturally curious as how it worked and when you actually explain the current setup. It can get convoluted real quick

I think it will naturally encourage matches to be more exciting as well