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The Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank. Is there a reason you called them a liberal rag? Do you have a link to the Einstein Institute report? It's systematic, but that doesn't in and of itself mean it there want anything untoward behind it. Democrat presidential candidates routinely win urban polling precincts by large margins in battleground states. That is systematic, but not unexpected nor fishy. Where is the evidence that large numbers of ballots invalid ballots were counted anywhere?
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It's as if you entirely forgot what was happened in 2020. There was a global pandemic this resulted in an abnormally large number of absentee/mail in ballots being cast. This was because people either didn't want to go in person to the polls or election/government officials encouraged voters to vote by mail. It takes longer to count mail in ballots than votes cast in person at a voting machine also a well known fact. The counting process in the states in the graphic are not allowed to be processed until Election Day. Some states have different rules which allow for speedier processing, but not WI and MI. The late vote addition in the charts was mail in ballots from urban percents in these states. This was entirely expected. It might be a little surprising how much these votes favored Biden over Trump, but when you look at how much the in person votes favored Biden in the same areas, is it really? And even if it is reason to be suspicious what's missing is the evidence of truckloads of fake/invalid ballots being counted. Where is it? How did it happen in multiple states and get past election officials? Election officials from both parties are present during the count. It's possibly but highly unlikely on the scale some people would like us to believe.
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I don't think that's accurate. I think Minnow is a net positive for the sport, but it's a close call. He's a douche and I'd prefer any other outlet to break these stories over him. It's possible I was a little unfair in saying right as much as he is wrong. Certainly in this instance he was more right than wrong, I think I am on his side when it comes to deleting the incorrect/inaccurate tweets. If he tweet's wrong information it is probably best that he removes the tweet rather than leaving it up so that people can keep track of how often he is wrong. He should issue a retraction/correction along with deleting it, but it should be deleted.
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Minnow maybe deals too much into rumors and is wrong as often as he is right, but I also appreciate his presence in the sport. If he hadn't broke the story I wonder if we would have ever heard about it. It might come up years later like when Chael mentioned Kurt Angle's HGH test, which I'm not sure if is true or nonsense. I get the feeling if the Flo crew had caught the same information as Minnow and even confirmed it with a source at PSU and/or the Brooks family if they would have not run the story. CP clearly did not want to discuss it when Sonnen roped him into it and I suspect they'd kill the story at the request of PSU/Brooks. Flo is 50% news outlet 50% PR at times.
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I've considered the mental experiment of what if Sanderson went back to ISU or some other lesser program. Could he build them up to win a team title? How long would it take? In some ways it will be easier because Sanderson now has this massive reputation as a coach that he didn't have at ISU, but in other ways it will be more difficult. Now PSU will have this massive legacy all its own. All the high school kids that see PSU winning probably think more that they want to wrestle for PSU more than Sanderson specifically. It will be like him recruiting against himself to get the incoming athletes. Some athletes may follow, but I doubt all of them. The best ones likely have NIL deals that could keep them in place. The NIL money isn't going to instantly follow Sanderson to the new location. He will have to try and rebuild that. Perhaps Cunningham stays because his kids are still in school and even if he doesn't I'm sure whoever gets that job will be a massive name. It could be a 5-10 year process for Sanderson to bring some other team into title contention.
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I've added Gavin and Baumgartner to the table. Gavin really hasn't have the same level of success at the national tournament as the other guys. He has only coached 4 AAs in 7 years which is a little unlucky because his best team may have been during the COVID year. His team this season was definitely greater than the sum of its parts - I think they beat Ohio State in a dual. I think he's done a good job, but I don't think this would set him up for a bigger gig yet. His guys have been inconsistent. Wentzel, Matthews, and Bonaccorsi have all struggled at times to duplicate their success and it really is only those three guys that have driven his success at the National tournament. Micky Phillippi never making the podium was disappointing. I don't think it's crazy to have Scott as 3rd best coach in the ACC at the time of his departure, but it's pretty close. I also don't think it would be crazy for him to get the OSU job over the other guys in the table given his competition success, the trajectory the UNC program was on, his affiliation with OSU, and the improvement at OSU that coincided with his arrival. I don't think he was screwed out of the position either. Sanderson's PSU has won 11 of the last 13 NCAA tournaments. The field has been successful over PSU only 15% of the time. Even the best coaches in D1 only have had a 7.5% success rate. John Smith's theoretically probability has to something less than that. Maybe 5%. Scott's probably in the single digits.
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The measure of success at OSU is a national title. Scott could get it done. Taylor may too. Nothing is guaranteed even at OSU. Chesbro and Smith were great coaches and they both had 10+ year periods without winning a title whilst in Stillwater. I wasn't trying to grade Koll's UNC tenure based on a single year. You had implied that while Scott's record at UNC was good but maybe not good enough to indicate that he could be successful in a job as high profile as OSU. I think his performance compares favorably to those that have held lower profile positions either before or after success at a high profile program. Zalesky, Brands, Ryan, Koll - none of them had more success at the lower profile programs they coached than Scott. If Koll's tenure at UNC or Stanford is too short you can compare Scott's time at UNC with Koll's at Cornell and come to a similar conclusion. It is and it isn't. You say he's the 3rd best coach in the ACC. I assume you have Robie and Popolizioo ahead of him. Evaluating a coach is more difficult than a wrestler. Coaches are dealt different hands and it takes time to build a program. You put the best NCAA wrestler (Carter Starocci) at any D1 program next season and he's likely to win a title. You put the best coach (Sanderson) at any program next season and he doesn't win a title at well over half of them. The question the search committee was trying to answer is which candidate would do the most with the resources at OSU? I think the problem with looking at Robie/Popolizio's accomplishments and comparing them to Scott and saying they are better coaches is the starting point. VT isn't a traditional powerhouse, but they were a consistent top ten program when Robie took over from Dresser. Popolizio had a three year head start building the program at NC State, a process he jump started with an AA transfer from his previous post. Scott on the other hand didn't take over a top 10 program. UNC had not had a national champion, multiple AAs in a single season, or even a top 20 finish in 20 years (1995). He also didn't take over after a long period of working as a top assistant. He was the assistant in Chapel Hill for a single season before assuming the role of head coach whilst still competing. He wrestled in the Olympic trials in 2016 following his first season as head coach (2015-2016). If you compare Scott's 8 years at UNC with Popolizio's first 8 years in Raleigh or Dresser's first 8 at Tech they are pretty close.
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Chael said that if WADA had authority any money spent on lawyers would be a waste. I suppose this could be interpreted multiple ways. One way would be that winning is impossible. Another would be that if you had a winnable case hiring a lawyer would not increase your chances of winning.
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On FRL today CP got a text mid show that Aaron Brooks was cleared by WADA.
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I suppose it is theoretically possible, but is there precedence for the NCAA vacating individual accomplishments for a failed test like this in wrestling? I don't recall them stripping Fix of anything. Maybe he just had fortunate timing as he was Olympic redshirting the year he failed a test.
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Coaching Staff with the most World/Olympic Gold medlas
fishbane replied to fishbane's topic in College Wrestling
Momir Petkovic is also listed on the CKWC staff. He was an Olympic champion in 1976. I wonder how involved Beloglasov and Petkovic are at 67 and 70 years old respectively. It seems likely that CKWC leads the RTCs in world titles on the coaching staff. -
I didn't think USA Wrestling made any public comments on the topic except to say that they don't comment. Aaron seemed confident in his Basch interview, but I'm not sure that means much.
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Coaching Staff with the most World/Olympic Gold medlas
fishbane replied to fishbane's topic in College Wrestling
He did, but Zain specifically said Jordan Conaway was his training partner in an interview. "Jordan Conaway came out to be my training partner." https://youtu.be/JKyWp7sBy9Y?si=DfGhThkkhSxucpM9&t=150 -
Coaching Staff with the most World/Olympic Gold medlas
fishbane replied to fishbane's topic in College Wrestling
I think he went with Zain as his practice partner for the World Olympic Qualifier. Not sure what else he's been up. -
Coaching Staff with the most World/Olympic Gold medlas
fishbane replied to fishbane's topic in College Wrestling
Looks like I was wrong. Kevin Jackson is on the staff at Michigan not the CKWC staff. 1) OSU 5 (David Taylor 1 Olympic/3 World, Thomas Gilman 1 World) 2) Iowa 4 (Tom Brands 1 Olympic/1 World, Terry Brands 2 World) 3) Michigan (Kevin Jackson 1 Olympic/2 World) 4) Morgan State 2 (Kenny Monday 1 Olympic/1 World) 5) PSU 1 (Cael Sanderson 1 Olympic) 5) ASU 1 (Larry Jones 1 World) 5) Ohio State 1 (Logan Stieber 1 World) RTC Staff Jake Varner NLWC (1 Olympic) Kendall Cross NYC RTC (1 Olympic) Brandon Slay Pennsylvania RTC (1 Olympic) -
Pendleton wrestled in the 2012 Olympic trials. He lost in the challenge tournament finals to Tommy Rowlands.
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Coaching Staff with the most World/Olympic Gold medlas
fishbane replied to fishbane's topic in College Wrestling
I'd have to think it's a possibility, though they have a pretty huge pool of qualified alumni to fill it. There are a handful of world level champions at RTCs. Jake Varner NLWC Kendall Cross NYC RTC Brandon Slay Pennsylvania RTC Kevin Jackson CKWC -
1) OSU 5 (David Taylor 1 Olympic/3 World, Thomas Gilman 1 World) 2) Iowa 4 (Tom Brands 1 Olympic/1 World, Terry Brands 2 World) 3) Morgan State 2 (Kenny Monday 1 Olympic/1 World) 4) PSU 1 (Cael Sanderson 1 Olympic) 4) ASU 1 (Larry Jones 1 World) 4) Ohio State 1 (Logan Stieber 1 World) It looks like OSU will have the most World level titles on staff just like before Smith retired. Am I missing any world/Olympic champion head or assistant coaches?
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UNC finished 3rd with a record of 3-2 in ACC duals this year under Rob Koll. Would you have the same assessment of him as a head coach? When national championship winning coaches have had the head position at smaller programs they have had good results, but results that wouldn't put them in contention for a team trophy. This is true of Brands when he was at VT, Zalesky at Oregon State, and Ryan at Hofstra. I don't think Scott's coaching record at UNC is an indication that he would not be successful at OSU. On the other hand many coaches that have produced extraordinary results at small programs like Flynn st Edinboro and Cody at AU have had difficulty duplicating those results when they have moved to bigger programs. Some have also had success like Joe Seay.
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In Clash of Combat interview from April 2023 he said he graduated from Minnesota. He should talk about it around the time stamp I've linked to in the video below. I suspect he would be started graduate work if he returned to NCAA competition somewhere next year. https://youtu.be/LzUSDGeSNPw?si=hl5aWwRMhr_FKzEw&t=2734
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I might ask why there was a vertical jump or 4 in those plots, but I wouldn't presuppose the answer.
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Ram of the East with a new message. "Last year, not to make this too much about myself, last year when I really started getting into the truth.. when I really started picking up my cross daily doing my best to live like Christ, you know repent of my sins, turn from my ways, not love the world...follow his commandments I watched some guys on YouTube some brothers in Christ... They would always say when you really start to come to the truth you'll know because strange things will happen. Things you can't explain I think when you look at Christ's life you know strange things. People plotted against him. The Pharisees. You go read through the gospels Mark, Matthew, Luke, John. You read through the gospels it's strange what they did to the Messiah. When you really start to live like him and pick up your cross daily strange things will happen. And I'm not going to sit here and talk about my story or the things that I'm going through or went through or whatever, but weird things happen."
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What exactly is the fishy part? Is it the vertical jump in the blue line just before 6:00 in Wisconsin and just after 8:00 in MI that I've circled in green? In Michigan there are similarly sized jumps in both the red and blue lines earlier in the day which I've marked with arrows. Are these fishy too?
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I don't think it is ego (although that may be the case for NM1965) as much as it is logic. There are talks of Gable being unbeatable in the room, but when he actually put in on the line and attempted a comeback to make the 1976 team he lost to to a college guy - Lee Kemp. John Smith is the goat, but he lost multiple times to Reinoso who ended up losing to D2 guys when he came to America. I expect many will have similar stories about David Taylor dominating the room at OSU. Presumably near his peak he just lost to a college senior Aaron Brooks who was beaten by Marcus Coleman. Taylor when asked about Kerkvliet kind of admitted to avoiding him in the room because of his size. The idea that Gable, Smith, Sanderson, Cunningham, Taylor ect by and large get the better of nearly all their wrestlers I would 't dispute, but they get to pick their spots and they are wrestling guys they know well. In a match it would go differently sometimes. There is a reason these guys are retired and coaching instead of competing.
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Daton failed an out of competition test in Jan 2020 and was suspended through Feb 2021. He didn't wrestle in NCAA competition in that time as he was Olympic redshirting in 2019-2020. I think the NCAA enforced it, but he didn't miss much time between the Olympic redshirt and 2020-2021 being an abbreviated season due to COVID. Since he didn't compete in NCAA competition between failing the test and getting the sanction there isn't really precedent as to whether they would nullify a result from Fix's situation. Stripping wins is the only thing the NCAA could do to Brooks/PSU now.