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LOL...Brands wasn't real happy with Starroci there at the end. That HAS to turn into a GIF...right?

And he was still gonna get the major...just not the pin most likely.

"if I was 187 one year, I was 210 the next year, and I knew Football was my passion, so I let it go." I'm saying I don't think a coach said to him, "you have to cut to 195 if you want to Wrestle, you can't Wrestle 220." There's a LONG list of Wrestlers who quit their Sr year. It's also likely that Penn State didn't want him Wrestling after he signed(I know that's been the case with a few UW signees under Davis).

I'd be shocked if any coach told him they didn't want him out at 195 or 220. I took it more as a business decision. "Football was my passion." The weight thing seemed less of an impact. He'd still barely have to cut to make 220 right now, much less when he came to PSU.

IDK...the best way to control a tie on your feet? I'm a little surprised that Facundo has let him get it SO deep so much of the match. I'd hit a stall here when he keeps backing off like that. Though the firsts aren't exactly going up real quick tonight(which is fine).

Right, it's almost for that reason I'm rooting for Iowa. I'd LOVE to see it coming down to HWT for the match again for the 6th time this year for Iowa.

It's also probably the most wide open. Peyton Robb? He's tough...but I'll take Haines over him with his length. I'll take Facundo in the rematch right here.

Is Parsons gonna retire when he's 26? Parsons is gonna to absolutely DESTROY the market for Off-Ball backers(namely because he's not really an off-ball backer). Parsons is a year away from a 5/150M type extension...and that's just his first one. Is it sad? Eh...IDK. Can we get Wrestling big enough to get a 110B dollar TV deal over 11 years, plus another 3B dollar a year deal just for the rights to show when someone's about to score?

Yeah, I wasn't really serious. I was just curious how reactionary you were gonna be on your PSU predictions...which are always trollishly dire. There's no reason Haines can't compete for a NC this year. I wouldn't bet he wins it, but I wouldn't be shocked.

He did...and Smart match by Siebrecht. Cael and company are going to have to work with him on scoring through that underhook. He slowed Haines down pretty effectively. Very different Wrestler than when he wrestled Model from Wisconsin(very similar build and style to...both these guys). But he was able to clear and create more angles. Course Model was trying to score a bit more which obviously opens things up, then Haines broke him.

Jimmy Cinnabon- 3 points? This Haines kid just got downgraded to a...POSSIBLE qualifier. 1-2 at best, right?

I'd HATE to ref a match like this. In my BRIEF time as a HS ref, I remember just a few hundred people in a "big" rivalry duel and I dreaded calling shit. PSU fans(or Iowa at CHA) are just ruthless! I don't think the home crowd EVER thinks the other guy is in a "potentially dangerous" situation or NOT stalling!

Right...he wrestled as a true Freshmen. I'm not following the difference. A Redshirt is a Redshirt. If you're a True Freshmen or if you're a Soph.

Yup! Lee was a wuss!

I don't believe that'd burn his RS. He's barely got 5 matches, much less 5 events. I know there's some question about Haines wrestling as THAT'D burn his RS, but Ayala?

Woods faded in the 3rd last time I saw him(which...is not like him). It'll be interesting to see if Bartlett can get his shot when he needs it late(assuming not tilts).

What happened to Ayala? He can't Wrestle? Because he seems like he'd be the pretty clear favorite and...then this is self explanatory.

I don't know, kinda subjective. It's certainly not a rare thing.

I think that's...quite a stretch. Again, Burwick had ZERO plans to transfer until Lamont was brought in. You don't set up a place to live for the next year(lease and all) if you're planning on leaving. Wisconsin tried to help Burwick as much as they could by conceding they hadn't told him what the transfer dates were(though most of the kids knew what it was). You'd think the kid who was planning the whole time and looking into it...he MIGHT have looked into and made sure he knew the rules. Instead, he wasn't even close. His waiver was granted because he transferred late. This is how it's been handled in every other case. You miss the deadline, you have to sit out the first semester. It's that simple. This wasn't a unique case other than Manning...apparently unaware of the rule, tried calling out Bono when he had literally NOTHING to do with it at that point.

I get what you're saying, but I don't think Hamiti actually heard it and then attacked because he thought he had the 1. I don't know why UW didn't challenge that as it would have put Hamiti on his feet and wiped off the riding time not that it ended up mattering, but it felt like the longer Hamiti had, the better the chances he was gonna get a TD and NF. I do agree though, Hamiti was penalized for his quick re-shot. Hamiti needs to find a way to create his own offense rather than get into scrambles. He reminds me a bit of Henning. Not a ton of offense on his feet(vs elite guys), but he was one of the first guys who really used others shots to pass the ankle and then come out and score on their shot. Still should have beaten that Paulson but the ref stopped it when he was coming out the back. The early days of that particularly type of scramble. At least on a regular basis. I've seen Gerry Abas and Kolat pull it out(looking back in videos) but he kinda perfected scoring off it.

Oh...I dislike the Brands and it's impossible to not respect the passion they have for the sport and the way they wrestled, the way they coach. I will say look at Hillger and look at Cass. Both athletic and "undersized" HWTs coming in. I'd say Hillger was the more athletic guy. Not sure I'd say more talented because that's too vague, but...well, I guess athletically gifted is good enough. Wrestling is a sport where you can take that and work your way to being great...which brings me to the difference between these two. Cass went, remade his body, went from basically Hillger now to a guy who looks like he's got Matt Brown(the '74 for PSU) type build, just 60 pounds heavier...while Hillger, who was an awesome athlete at ~225 was your typical tweener. He went and ate 12,000 calories a day and just put on a gut. So...I guess it's nice he doesn't get turned more now, but he's lost a lot of his quickness. So I don't know if Hillger was oiled up or if he just sweats like a guy who went from 220 to 260 and it appears it's shown up all as a half barrel in his belly. Look at Davidson from NU? It'd be great if everyone was 6'5 and could weigh 270 at HWT like Mason Parris, but I don't see how adding all that bad weight has helped him.

Yeah, I guess it did. What ARE you talking about? What are you talking about? If the Badgers don't recruit Lamont, Burwick is Wrestling 133 for them right now. "Will chalk it up to one too many." I'd assumed you were talking about his reasons for transferring. If you're not, then you are correct, it went over my head.

Yes...that is what he said when he was at Nebraska and they were arguing to the NCAA that it was Wisconsin's fault for not informing him of the May 6th deadline to transfer. Edit-Which...they admitted they had failed to do. Still, athletes who are looking to transfer are generally doing things that would suggest they plan to move(like...move or leave the school you're at after the Winter Semester). He was still at Madison, still enrolled, still in the room...until Lamont. So why do YOU think if he was trying to get a waiver from the NCAA and he missed the window to transfer after they recruited another Wrestler...that he'd say, "well, it's there fault I didn't get my transfer in on time, I was always planning on transferring?" Don't you think maybe that could be so he could put the onus on UW and to try and get his appeal to go through? Or do you think that means he was planning on transferring despite all evidence to the contrary? I can't read minds, I can only look at actions. His actions didn't seem to lineup. And for the record, I kinda get why he'd be upset about them recruiting a kid for ONE year who at best is a marginal upgrade when he has 3 years left. But we've seen how brutal the B1G is. I wouldn't have recruited Woods if I was Iowa(or at least I'd have tried to communicate with Henson who...I think is actually at '33 now).

LOL..."why aren't they raiding his house." The DOJ negotiated for Months. Trump claimed he could declassify a document just by thinking it! The FBI went into Mar-a-Lago dressed up as employees in an attempt to minimize their exposure. Trump announced it. He wanted to play the victim. Biden on the other hand admitted his mistakes, he's not trying to obstruct. It's a false equivalency, but of course, nobody has ever been treated as badly as Trump!

They're gonna ban sodomy? What the hell are the Catholic school kids gonna do for their "loophole?" I guess this'll be exclusive to same sex, huh? I feel pretty good there'd be enough GOP support to to legalize that. I mean...what would happen to Linsey's little lady bugs!