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Coaches wrestle. Cael should win - but remember that Gable would go with Chris Campbell and said it was 50/50 - so maybe he would last to the second period before getting pinned or a Tech Fall?

Please speak a bit more clearly and SLOW DOWN the delivery.

I'll only trust this if it is vouched for by a reputable site or individual. Someone who is trusworthy & reliable, like a Nigerian Prince... someone like that.

College career.

You are right. But, just like Ed Banach - all the buildup and hype are too much to ignore when the final result on the mat is a loss like they took.

One positive thing is that Iowa is heaven compared to Oklahoma. A lot more NEW trailer parks.

Lee & Olympic Gold in 16 months? He will be lucky to match Askren. Maybe even Cormier. That is IF he even makes the team. He is the victim of his body, injuries his talent can't make up for with the toughest competition.

You mean you aren't waiting breathless until "what is Lee's favorite type of Apple"?

Is that real? My question is. Keep reading about "Karen" in various stories but never why the folks are saying it.

All the undefeated. Hodge guys. Top Talent. On match with your wrestler at this Very Best, top of his game. Who do you pick? I'll go Mark Schultz. At his best he demolished the competition.

Better to ask "are there really any Dakotas"?

Who is Karen?

Derailing a 4-timer GOAT. Mark Schultz ------------------ Best of ALL he undefeateds GOAT Yojo Uetake

Spencer, we understand that and don't expect an excuse for your dropping out and medical forfeits to 6th place. We do expect an explanation. That is not an excuse. It is treating fans, competitors and coaches to the reality of why you did not wrestle the placement matches. If it is really a medical problem, let us know. We have followed your career and cheered/boo'ed you through knee troubles, sickness and triumph. We could see you were not 100% this time. Why not make as simple announcement and clear things up? Injury is nothing to be ashamed of. It happens. It is not an excuse - it is reality. Let your fans know.

Am aware of it. He did it as if he did not want to be seen - that is how it appears. Chael's take has validity. Just can't see Gable handling it like that. But - very different personalities. We'll see how he does moving forward.

RBY choosing Down against anyone. He has been lousy at escapes and reversals against good wrestlers. A real hole in his arsenel in folkstyle.

10 of the last 12 contested...

Optics make it look like he was embarassed to be seen in public. So, rather than appear matside or openly with the team and announde the Medical Forfeits - it Looks Like he ran and hid. Even if he did not wrestle with injury it looks like he did not handle the loss like Gable and Karelin. Both beaten while riding high, both stood and congratulated the winner - in public. Running and hiding does not solve anything. As we see it only sparked rumors and crazy theories. You win, you stand and be seen. You lose, you stand and be seen. In this case you stand and cheer on your team and do it publicly. Spencer did not do it. Hope the injuries heal so he can come back on the International stage and find success, but more importantly learn to live with reality no matter positive or negative.

When younger it was common practice for local judges to give young types involved in criminal activity a choice: Prosecution and jail/prison or enlist in the Military. Many chose the military. Many were helped even as some completely screwed up their lifeline. Give these guys a chance. If they can't make it at least someone tried to help. Maybe..., just maybe it will work.

Deluded, maybe? Need a crutch to help them since apparently they can't rely on their own strength and judgment? From Caels brand of Jesus was a polygamist & Garden of Eden in Missouri & Indians are actually Hebrews to Pentecostal Snake Handlers & speaking in tongues to Islam's minority who teach any non believer should die. Religion is toxic even as some may be helped by faith.

Could be that T&T/admin have checked things our and visited with them and the family. Assurances given and a strict set of rules put out if they come. Guidance counselors and maybe therapy required for it to happen? Every kid deserves a second chance. At times it works. At times it does not - as we saw with Cael and Andrew Long. Even with guidance and strong team support a kid can fail. But - he was given a chance. Why don't the Farrari kids deserve it? As for the youngest one - no problems showing so might be smart to leave him alone in these discussions. "innocent until proven guilty" - not guilt by association.

Since Cael took over at Penn State they have had only one lapse of "two whole years" without a title. Iowa saw a few indificual positive stories but overall a failure compared to expectations.(realistic or not) What Brands & Co are doing is not working - not if you are shooting for #1. Sure, a lot of programs would love to make it to #2. That is not Iowa. Not the program Gary Kurdelmeier and Dan Gable built. A lot like Oklahoma State under John Smith. Winning and looking good and now falling off the radar. Sad and worse than Iowa now. Penn State underperformed, if you listen to the expectations. They still won the team title. Iowa appeared to settle for #2 and appears to be OK with it.

For an Iowa fan "Bright spot" isn't finishing higher than Utah Valley. Or, First Loser as it is called. It is ONLY being #1 and now they can whine about Covid stealing a year from them. Dan Gable had a stretch of No Titles. Sat down & figured it out and came back to win again. So far Tom & Terry have not figured it out. They won't as long as Second Banana is OK with them. As much as they say it is not their failure to address it and make changes shows this is reality.

Thank you for the information. Nice to see the records even with different scoring through the decades. A lot like "Who was better - Yojo or Cael" when looking at records.

Like Mark Schultz with Ed Banach - even though Banach had not yet won his third?