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125 Cardinale (WV) mff in the QF after having a Bye in the 1st round. Doesn't he have to step on the mat & take a loss via ID to qualify for an At-Large bid to NCAA ?

Both 141 Bell (Rider) & 149 Stonecheck (LHU) have their AQ’s stolen & will both be hoping for At-Large bids. More to follow tommorow.

Yea, I was shocked while watching that match that Reid wasn’t DQ’d. He did it twice in tb. The NIU coach was livid for good reason.

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Examples of the "Unintended Consequences" wouid be : 125: #9 (IM) DeAugustion (Northwestern) 141: #7 Tal-Shahar (Northwestern) 157:: #13 Carr (Illinois) & #14 Siebrecht (Iowa) 174: #12 Brands (Iowa) I am probably missing several others. All of these wrestlers are good bets to "steal" an NCAA bid at the expense of an AQ wrestler.

Thanks for your response. I know you didn't just "throw it out there". It is NOT a uniform practice/criteria. I can not find another Conference that does this when reviewing AQ's & Seeds. I agree with your thoughts on "unintended consequences". I don't expect the NCAA to address this. Minneo's example doesn't apply as Yianni was awarded an AQ.

Just noticed ... @174, no returning AA Clay Lautt (N.Carolina). This was his 6th season, is he done ?

Bolded Wrestlers were awarded an AQ for the ACC Tournament * Defending ACC Champ 125 Pounds (2 AQ) 1. Jarrett Trombley, NC State 2. Eddie Ventresca, Virginia Tech 3. Jack Wagner, North Carolina 4. Colton Camacho, Pitt 5. Patrick McCormick, Virginia 6. Ethan Grimminger, Duke 133 Pounds (3) 1. Micky Phillippi, Pitt 2. Sam Latona, Virginia Tech 3. Kai Orine, NC State 4. Jace Palmer, North Carolina 5. Marlon Yarbrough II, Virginia 6. Logan Agin, Duke 141 Pounds (4) 1. Cole Matthews, Pitt* 2. Ryan Jack, NC State 3. Lachlan McNeil, North Carolina 4. Tom Crook, Virginia Tech 5. Dylan Cedeno, Virginia 6. Jarred Papscy, Duke 149 Pounds (3) 1. Caleb Henson, Virginia Tech 2. Jackson Arrington, NC State 3. Jarod Verkleeren, Virginia 4. Tyler Badgett, Pitt 5. Zach Sherman, North Carolina 6. Patrick Rowland, Duke 157 Pounds (3) 1. Austin O’Connor, North Carolina 2. Bryce Andonian, Virginia Tech 3. Ed Scott, NC State* 4. Dazjon Casto, Pitt 5. Jake Keating, Virginia 6. Logan Ferrero, Duke 165 Pounds (3) 1. Holden Heller, Pitt 2. Justin McCoy, Virginia 3. Matthew Singleton, NC State 4. Connor Brady, Virginia Tech 5. Joey Mazzara, North Carolina 6. Gabe Dinette, Duke 174 Pounds (3) 1. Mekhi Lewis, Virginia Tech* 2. Alex Faison, NC State 3. Luca Augustine, Pitt 4. Michael Goldfeder, North Carolina 5. Victor Marcelli, Virginia 6. OPEN 184 Pounds (5) 1. Trent Hidlay, NC State* 2. Hunter Bolen, Virginia Tech 3. Gavin Kane, North Carolina 4. Neil Antrassian, Virginia 5. Reece Heller, Pitt 6. Luke Chakonis, Duke 197 Pounds (4) 1. Nino Bonaccorsi, Pitt* 2. Andy Smith, Virginia Tech 3. Isaac Trumble, NC State 4. Michael Battista, Virginia 5. Vincent Baker, Duke 6. Max Shaw, North Carolina 285 Pounds (3) 1. Jonah Niesenbaum, Duke 2. Owen Trephan, NC State 3. Hunter Catka, Virginia Tech 4. Jacob Slinger, Pitt 5. Brandon Whitman, North Carolina 6. Ethan Weatherspoon, Virginia

Bolded Wrestlers were awarded an AQ for MAC Tournamenet 125 lbs. (2 AQ) 1. Anthony Noto, Lock Haven 2. Jake Ferri, Kent State 3. Joey Fischer, Clarion 4. Markel Baker, George Mason 5. Blake West, Northern Illinois 6. Sean Spidle, Central Michigan 7. Oscar Sanchez, Ohio 8. Tyler Klinsky, Rider 133 lbs. (1) 1. Gable Strickland, Lock Haven 2. Cole Rhone, Bloomsburg 3. Richie Koehler, Rider 4. Jacob Manley , Cleveland State 5. Aaron Schulist, SIUE 6. Lucian Brink, Northern Illinois 7. Vince Perez, Central Michigan 8. Tommy Maddox, Buffalo 141 lbs. (2) 1. McKenzie Bell, Rider 2. Saul Ervin, SIUE 3. Seth Koleno, Clarion 4. Josh Mason, Bloomsburg 5. Amonn Ohl, Edinboro 6. Caleb Rea, Cleveland State 7. Sean Logue, Lock Haven 8. Jimmy Nugent, Central Michigan 149 lbs. (5) 1. Caleb Tyus, SIUE 2. Ryan Burgos, Edinboro 3. Quinn Kinner, Rider 4. Nick Stonecheck, Lock Haven 5. Johnny Lovett, Central Michigan 6. Alec Hagan, Ohio 7. Kody Komara, Kent State 8. Kyle Schickel, Clarion 157 lbs. (4) 1. Corbyn Munson, Central Michigan 2. Peyten Keller, Ohio 3. Marcus Robinson, Cleveland State 4. Michael Petite, Buffalo 5. Peter Pappas, George Mason 6. Anthony Gibson, Northern Illinois 7. Ashton Eyler, Lock Haven 8. Keegan Knapp, Kent State 165 lbs. (1) 1. Izzak Olejnik, Northern Illinois 2. Avery Bassett , Lock Haven 3. Cameron Pine, Clarion 4. Jordan Slivka, Ohio 5. Tracy Hubbard, Central Michigan 6. Enrique Munguia, Kent State 7. Cardi Wilson, SIUE 8. Daniel Patten, Cleveland State 174 lbs. (4) 1. Alex Cramer, Central Michigan 2. Jared McGill, Edinboro 3. Sal Perrine, Ohio 4. Logan Messer, George Mason 5. Michael Wilson, Rider 6. John Worthing, Clarion 7. Tyler Stoltzfus, Lock Haven 8. Jay Nivison, Buffalo 184 lbs. (2) 1. Will Feldkamp, Clarion 2. Giuseppe Hoose, Buffalo 3. Zayne Lehman, Ohio 4. Malachi Duvall, George Mason 5. Deandre Nassar, Cleveland State 6. Matt Zuber, Northern Illinois 7. Colin Fegley, Lock Haven 8. Ben Cushman, Central Michigan 197 lbs. (1) 1. Ethan Laird, Rider 2. Tyler Bagoly, Clarion 3. Anthony Perrine, Cleveland State 4. Sam Mitchell, Buffalo 5. Ryan Yarnell, SIUE 6. Carson Brewer, Ohio 7. Blake Schaffer, Kent State 8. Cody Mulligan, Edinboro 285 lbs. (1) 1. Colton McKiernan, SIUE 2. Isaac Reid Lock Haven 3. David Szuba Rider 4. Daniel Bucknavich Cleveland State 5. Bryan Caves Central Michigan 6. Eli Sheeran, Buffalo 7. Shane Noonan, Bloomsburg 8. Nick Lodato, Edinboro

Is this true ? I suppose it is as you seem to be in the know. If so, do any other Conferences do this ? This would seem to contradict the purpose of Seeding ... which is to evaluate/seed a wrestlers regular season resume. Yes, awarding an AQ does evaluate to some extent but doesn't specifically focus on Conference results. Interesting.

133 (Palmer-UTC) & 184 (Waddell-UTC) ... who both eaned AQ's for the SoCon ... will both have to OVER-perform to qualify as #3 Seeds.

SEEDS Source - teamusa.org 125 (1 NCAA allocation) #1 Caleb Smith, Appalachian State #2 Dominic Chavez, Presbyterian #3 Anthony Molton, Campbell #4 Drew West, Gardner-Webb #5 Blair Orr, The Citadel #6 Logan Ashton, UTC #7 Tony Burke, VMI #8 Devon Diaco, Davidson 133 (2 NCAA allocations) #1 Ethan Oakley, Appalachian State #2 Dom Zaccone , Campbell #3 Brayden Palmer, UTC #4 Todd Carter, Gardner-Webb #5 George Rosas, The Citadel #6 Jackson Sichelstiel, Davidson #7 Jake Brasseur, Presbyterian #8 Dyson Dunham, VMI 141 (1 NCAA allocation) #1 Shannon Hanna, Campbell #2 Zach Price, Gardner-Webb #3 Heath Gonyer, Appalachian State #4 Franco Valdes, UTC #5 Jacob Silka, The Citadel #6 Freddy Junko, VMI #7 Trent Donahue, Presbyterian #8 Josh Viarengo, Davidson 149 (1 NCAA allocation) #1 Jonathan Miller, Appalachian State #2 Noah Castillo, UTC #3 Chris Rivera, Campbell #4 Ryan Vigil, VMI #5 Ethan Willis, The Citadel #6 Noah Frack, Davidson #7 Khalid Brinkley, Presbyterian #8 Parker Corwin, Gardner-Webb 157 (1 NCAA allocation) #1 Tommy Askey, Appalachian State #2 Troy Nation, Campbell #3 Tanner Peake, Davidson #4 Lincoln Heck, UTC #5 Job Chishko, VMI #6 Anthony Allen, The Citadel #7 Tyler Brignola, Gardner-Webb #8 Michael Ramirez, Presbyterian 165 (1 NCAA allocation) #1 Will Formato, Appalachian State #2 RJ Mosley, Gardner-Webb #3 Weston Wichman, UTC #4 Dom Baker, Campbell #5 Braxton Lewis, VMI #6 Bryce Sanderlin, Davidson #7 Tyler Chittum, Presbyterian #8 Brodie Porter, The Citadel 174 (2 NCAA allocations) #1 Rocky Jordan, UTC #2 Will Miller, Appalachian State #3 Ben Haubert, The Citadel #4 Jon Hoover, VMI #5 Jaden Hardrick, Davidson #6 Cole Rees, Campbell #7 Zach Wells, Presbyterian #8 Andrew Wilson, Gardner-Webb 184 (1 NCAA allocation) #1 Caleb Hopkins, Campbell #2 Jha’Quan Anderson, Gardner-Webb #3 Matthew Waddell, UTC #4 Cordel Duhart, Presbyterian #5 Luke Uliano, Appalachian State #6 Tim Fitzpatrick, The Citadel #7 Zach Brown, VMI #8 Cameo Blankenship, Davidson 197 (1 NCAA allocation) #1 Levi Hopkins, Campbell #2 Carson Floyd, Appalachian State #3 Sam Mora, Gardner-Webb #4 Tyler Mousaw, VMI #5 Jake Boyd, UTC #6 Malcolm Wiley, Presbyterian #7 Gavin Henry, Davidson #8 Mark Chaid, The Citadel 285 (1 NCAA allocations) #1 Taye Ghadiali, Campbell #2 Jonathan Chesser, The Citadel #3 Jacob Sartorio, Appalachian State #4 Logan Andrew, UTC #5 Josh Evans, VMI #6 Jake Fernicola, Davidson #7 Abraham Preston, Gardner-Webb #8 Morvens Saint Jean, Presbyterian

I hope so also. I got lucky a few years ago and won the Big 10 pick um contest. Prize was a nice ballcap with Team USA signatures (I wear it every year @ NCAA's). I would like an oppurtunity to repeat

Thank you WKN. Hopefully there will be no more withrawals from Qualifiers.

WKN - How do the Top 10 NCAA Team Projections change with the recent news of Heinselman (OSU) & Vasquez (ASU) being out ? Feel for those wrestlers. Wondering what the impact of their absences could potentially mean to the Team race ?

How exactly does voiding the 2 marquee match-ups of this dual grow the sport ? Yet another dual where the marquee match-ups do NOT happen has the opposite effect on building fan interest and "growing" the sport.

You are predictable if nothing else.

Yea, I was there for that dual when ISU opted to keep most of their starters home for the “Dresser Open”. Heading to the Dual now and really hoping all these matches happen. A big ask I know.

Seems so. How do the Coaches have an “oversight” on a wrestler just coming off consecutive wins against the Intermat #3 & #4 (DeAugustino & McKee) literally days before the Ranking. Lol.

Why isn't Cronin (Nebraska) on the Coaches 125# Ranking ? What am I missing here ? WKN, anybody ?

+1 after attending home duals for many years

It doesn’t matter which weight. A quality addition !

Wrestleknownothing - Thank you for pre-season Rankings !

I missed the original Intermat pre-season Rankings. I have googled looking for them but every article you find has a hyperlink that takes you only to current (Nov.8) Rankings, NOT to the Rankings the article is discussing/referencing. Is there any way to access previous Intermat college Rankings ? Thanks.

+1 Officially on the Board !