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100% agree.... If you get a chance, Dan Russel's book is a good read. Great guys. I agree, we won't see D2 teams like that able to compete against D1 programs like they did back then. As a side note, Oregon HS wrestling at that time was top notch - so many studs coming out of there from about 85-95. Portland State was a D2 monster at the time. Western Oregon and Southern Oregon were very good NAIA schools, you had Clackamas and of course Oregon and Oregon State just down the road. There were many other programs as well, but the wrestling in Oregon was phenomenal during that time.

It's been quite a long time since we saw the D2 champs in the D1 tournament.... I think there will be some guys that will make some noise from time to time against D1 competition, but it's an exception. There was a time when the Portland States of the world with Dan Russsell and Co. could definitely compete with D1 competition.

Yep he is … although he snuck by McClane in the wrestle off.

Truax over Rowley 7-4 messenbrink 14-10 over Ruiz the true freshman.

Medical Insurance covering the whole family versus insurance just for the employee is one. Yes it can vary. Not sure if it is a difference in comparison to the two schools or not, be definitely can be a consideration when comparing the whole salary package.

You reported Scott's salary (at UNC) as 170k per year in a different thread. What will not be listed in the salary will be perks that coaches will get including the benefits package for the family. Chapel Hill is much higher than Stillwater in cost of living - especially in housing. Taxes are lower as well in Ok.

How will they crossover A, B, C, D, E, F, G and Pool A, B? You sunk my battleship.

184A pool A looks interesting.... Valencia, Rowley, Truax Looks like Parco and Chlebove, who wrestled yesterday are not wrestling today.

He rode VV long enough in the 3rd to erase the point

Probably the part where he keeps seeing bank deposits labeled "WWE"

Wow.... bad way to lose a match.

He looked a little woozy and was in protocol 10 minutes. A big range of, lets be safe and not wrestle vs missing most of the season. The Vaquez elbow looked and sounded bad. That kid has the worst luck.

No takedowns - Did a riding time point win it? Is that a big enough difference to pull a redshirt?

Not a good day for ASU. Vasquez elbow injury looked nasty and Teemer can't come out of concussion protocol.

Some interesting match-ups could happen.... Nasir Bailey, Kyle Dutton in action. Hwt could see Nevills vs Elam. https://www.trackwrestling.com/predefinedtournaments/MainFrame.jsp?newSession=false&TIM=1699714311266&pageName=%2Fpredefinedtournaments%2FTournamentHub.jsp&twSessionId=czjoaqsuva

Zain Bell - hwt from Findlay needing the extra pound to make weight.

Trackwrestling has the pre-season cert weights at 197 for Negron and 285 for Valencia.- of course we know that could have meant 184.1 and 197.1 . I had assumed, like others, that Negron was going 174 and Valencia 184, but the recent article said Valencia 174 and Negron 184. With all of that being said, If I understand the descent plan correctly, if he is going to be in the lineup next weekend at 174 against Missouri, I think he has to weigh in at around 176.5 or something close. Same would be true of Negron. Some of the tournaments used to show the actual weigh in weights, not sure if this one does.

Coached by Mark Branch and Steve Garland?

I agree..... your anger can't peak this early....it's gotta build to that right moment when you need it most. That's what a good coach does for you...helps you peak at the right time. You're welcome.

Thanks -- I tried to ask if Valencia was going up or down....but I was told very adamantly that the ASU wrestle offs 100% mean nothing and have no bearing on the starting lineup. By the way.... it's very unlikely. you see Montalvo.

Be careful..... be VERY careful.....

True.... my bad.

Siebrecht and Brands also lose a full year along with Assad and Cass (done). I thik Schreiver and Kennedy lose a few matches but can wrestle this year.

Is this Fauxbon #1 or Fauxbon #2? I get you fake posters from the old board mixed up. It's like the old pro wrestling from the 70's and 80's when you had two masked guys that looked the same, then they would trick the ref.