Yes, that's why I said "for a while." Cael would've won occasionally at Iowa St, he is just that good of coach, but we had parity. Sure JRob & Tom B had figured out ways to get extra wrestlers but what Cael did at PSU was well beyond this and all this was well before NIL. PSU was even beyond what Gable was able to do back in the era before the 9.9 limit.