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Bernie is not the guy. He is not a leader. He is loud and that's about it. He may be a true believer but I'm not sure that is the case. He's making money off of books and events. That's what a capitalist does, not a marxist. But I guess a marxist has to get money to further the goal somehow right? I agree that we need a leader who is about leading. That is very true. mspart

Ah but you are not using your logic well Sen Dole, and I'm really sorry to see that. If we ban all guns, bad guys will still have them. So no matter what we do about the availability of guns, bad guys will have them. So it is not illogical to say, Hmm, if we make the penalty for using a gun in a crime stiff enough, some people will refrain from using them during crimes. Also not illogical to say, if we have enhanced sentencing for using a gun during a crime, locking them up will effectively reduce gun crime. What is illogical to say is, Hitting people with extra sentences is unjustly proportioned on a minority or two so we just won't. Also illogical to have laws preventing gun use during a crime and then not prosecuting when that is the case. And this happens all the time here in WA. In fact, the Ds in the WA legislature have a bill that will reduce sentences. Yep that is illogical. Silly Ds. Equally illogical is to say Gun violence is too high. So we must make laws to outlaw guns so those that exercise their 2nd Amendment right responsibly are the ones that will suffer. But we will not prosecute those that actually commit gun violence or use guns in the committing of crime. You may choose which logic or illogic you ascribe to Bob. Sounds like if it were up to you, I'd have to defend myself from an armed intruder with a sword or a blow dart. Now that is liberal logic, which is illogical. mspart

Hi Nail, What are you ideas? mspart

NOT!! mspart

Me too. I've been there a handful of times. mspart

I like the description "freak of nature" to describe these guys. What distinguishes between freaks of nature is how hard they work at perfecting their craft. And how long they continue working at it. Freak of nature might get you to college but there are a lot of freaks of nature in college, most of them probably. It is those that work the hardest or are the freakiest of the freaks that make it beyond. mspart

A bit pessimistic but I see what you are saying. mspart

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/26/opinion/newsom-desantis-culture-war.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/26/opinion/newsom-desantis-culture-war.html By Ross Douthat Opinion Columnist Since the leak of the Dobbs decision in May, the conservative organization CatholicVote has counted 75 attacks on pro-life organizations around the country — vandalism, arson, graffiti, a firebombing. A group calling itself Jane’s Revenge has taken responsibility for some of the attacks, though it’s not clear whether this is a real pro-choice terrorist organization or just a conveniently unifying slogan. But then very little about these incidents is clear, because while officially the Federal Bureau of Investigation is investigating, so far it has not publicized any arrests. Perhaps a hardworking agent is about to break one of these cases. For abortion opponents, though, it’s been hard not to notice the contrast between the slow-seeming federal response to the wave of violence and the vigor with which the government has been pursuing anti-abortion protesters lately. For instance, the F.B.I. recently sent more than a dozen agents to make a 7 a.m. arrest of Mark Houck, a Pennsylvania father of seven who allegedly shoved an abortion clinic volunteer more than a year ago, an altercation that led to no local charges. (Houck said he was defending his 12-year-old son from verbal abuse.) Around the same time, the Department of Justice charged 11 pro-life protesters with federal crimes allegedly committed while blocking the entrance to an abortion clinic in Tennessee; one defendant is an 87-year-old woman. We’ll see what happens in court; it’s certainly plausible that some of these protesters were in violation of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act. It also seems plausible, though, that under the ideological pressures of the moment, the Biden Justice Department is “fishing,” as Timothy Carney of The Washington Examiner puts it, for pro-life activists to arrest and charge, while pro-choice arsonists are just a lower priority. Social conservatives who nurture this suspicion do so in the shadow of their Covid-era experience, when there was a wide gap between the urgency with which progressive authorities went after lockdown violations that were coded as conservative and religious — Christian congregations, Jewish funerals — and the tolerance or even celebration that greeted violators protesting for causes that the authorities considered suitably progressive and obviously just. ‌There is a well-traveled online quotation that encapsulates the suspicions involved here, formulated by a composer named Frank Wilhoit commenting on a political-science blog in 2018. To quote Wilhoit, what social conservatives fear is that progressivism in power “consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” In other words, under progressive rule, abortion clinics get the law’s protection while racial-justice protesters aren’t bound by its requirements; meanwhile religious conservatives get to fear F.B.I. agents on their doorsteps while crimes against their own institutions go conspicuously unsolved. Actually, I’m not playing fair with the quotation. Wilhoit’s formulation was written to describe conservatism’s defense of in-groups and contempt for out-groups, conservatism’s inability to guarantee equal protection under the law. But it’s powerful precisely because it generalizes. What the formulation really captures is not the essence of conservatism but the tendency of any ideology in power to find excuses — often excellent-seeming ones! — to reward its friends and punish its opponents, to apply the rules of the game unequally, to limit principles like free speech, religious liberty and freedom of association whenever they seem to offer too much leeway to a hated enemy. I bring this up because much of contemporary liberalism, staring down the prospect of another electoral defeat, has convinced itself that this pattern exists only on the other side of the aisle, that only conservatives are plotting “endless political warfare” without any concern that it “might violate anybody’s rights,” as Jonathan Chait of New York magazine put it in a recent portrait of the national conservatism gathering in Florida. And indeed, much of Trump-era conservatism is convinced that worrying too much about classical-liberal niceties is a sucker’s game. But anyone who imagines that Trumpism took shape in isolation needs to understand how this “don’t be a sucker” attitude has been reaffirmed and strengthened by progressive governance that seems equally unconcerned about neutrality or fairness. Consider one of the sharpest contrasts in our national life right now, the difference between Gov. Ron DeSantis and Gov. Gavin Newsom, Florida and California. In liberal polemic, DeSantis is the frightening embodiment of illiberalism after Trump, a punitive practitioner of governmental overreach — using the powers of his office to go after corporations that speak out on liberal causes, undermining free speech in Florida universities, threatening unjust restrictions on medical care for gender-dysphoric kids. If you are a Florida progressive frightened by DeSantis’s political warfare, though, consider the position of a social or religious conservative in California in recent years. A recent summary from David French, himself no partisan of the populist right, is a good place to start: He writes that “over the last decade, California Democrats have launched their own frontal attack on the First Amendment, one that matches or exceeds Gov. DeSantis’s in both intensity and scale.” French’s examples include attempts to force pro-life pregnancy centers to advertise abortions, Covid-era restrictions on religious free exercise that the Supreme Court repeatedly struck down, requirements that churches provide abortion coverage in their health plans and prohibitions on state-sponsored travel to other states deemed too hostile to gay rights (currently 23 are on the list). To this list one might add the Diversity-Equity-Inclusion loyalty oaths expected of many academic job-seekers in California’s public universities. Or the state’s prosecution of David Daleiden, the pro-life muckraker who released videos showing Planned Parenthood officials casually discussing fetal dismemberment. Or the new Californian measure, signed by Newsom last month, threatening doctors with disciplinary action if they offer what the state considers Covid “misinformation” to their patients. If you read this list and think, “These sound like excellent, uncontroversial ideas,” congratulations, you’ve just made the conservative case for voting for DeSantis, if not for Trumpism redux. Because all of these policies ensure that under Californian conditions, dissenters from liberal orthodoxy experience the same “bound, but unprotected” relationship to the state and its policies that Florida progressives feel themselves experiencing with DeSantis. And to give up the weapons of state power that your opponents are using so freely feels, inevitably, like unilateral disarmament. But even if you can imagine your way into the other faction’s perspective, there’s still the question of how this cycle of polarization can be broken. French, a passionate classical liberal, tends to argue that what the nation needs is a recommitment to the ideals of fairness and neutrality; what he fears (and portrays in his book, “Divided We Fall”) is an escalatory cycle that pulls big liberal or conservative states into irresolvable conflict with a conservative or liberal-leaning federal government, and from there a slide toward national collapse. A stronger commitment to simple procedural fairness, an awareness of Wilhoit’s Law and the temptation it describes, would definitely help avert this slide. But it’s not simply a failure to commit to liberal ideals that creates the current escalatory dynamic. It’s the fact that liberalism as a system historically relies for peace, common ground and understanding on certain forms of moral consensus, even religious consensus, that its thinned-out proceduralism struggles to generate by itself. As I argued in my inaugural newsletter last week, in general you need liberalism plus some overarching vision to sustain solidarity, energy and hope. And you definitely need the “plus” to fully resolve questions like, “Is abortion a form of murder or a fundamental right?” or “Is it child abuse to give teenagers puberty blockers or child abuse to refuse them?” So what preserves a liberal order when there’s no such common vision, just the crumbled remains of one, with increasingly incommensurate visions of the good and true competing in the rubble? One answer might be conflict itself. In this theory the fight will eventually generate the truce: The reality that a sprawling empire of 300 million cannot be governed the way one would a deep-blue or red state will become more apparent the more intensely America’s different factions fight, until the current peak of culture war yields to a somewhat exhausted peace — with federalist solutions, acceptance of pluralism and difference, a recognition that we can remain one country with, say, varying abortion laws. Alternatively the working-out of conflict could yield an unexpected synthesis, perhaps via a partisan leader who can pivot to statesmanship when the opportunity arises. Or else the struggle could eventually vindicate one overarching vision and restore consensus through one side’s simple victory — a victory of the sort that progressivism supposed itself to have won already, in the Obama years, before the arc of history bent another way. But what’s very hard to see is how the struggle can be simply averted through a retreat to classical liberal principle, because there isn’t quite enough there there to found a lasting settlement. For better or worse, the future peace depends on the outcome of the present conflicts, and Newsom contra DeSantis shows the path ahead. I found this interesting reading. Hoping some of you on the board do too. mspart

Ok, interesting. So what is "wrong" with going after bad guys that illegally (meaning it is against the law) used firearms in the pursuit of a crime? How would this be controversial enough to not support, if you are for reducing gun violence? What is there to lose with this approach? Yes, they are creating division and why would they do that? Ask yourself that. Why would they choose to create division among the masses rather than doing their duty in protecting the law abiding citizen? mspart

I decided to look again for new of this issue. Here are the results of my google search. So what does this tell us about the news media? This is news. Local authorities refused to prosecute. DOJ decided otherwise. FBI came into the house brandishing weapons to cart him off in front of his wife and family. And is acquitted. Is not this news? Apparently not news the big guys want us to know about. mspart

Oh shoots. mspart

Just watched the Yazdani match. Wow! Yaz woke up and took it to him. mspart

How about we go after the bad guys that use guns and let their sentences grow bigger because of it? Mandatory 5 year extension for use of a gun in a crime. If liberals were serious about preventing gun violence, this or something similar would be part of their tactics. But it is not. Therefore, they are not serious about reducing gun violence. Here in WA and in King County, use of gun in a crime is a sentenceable offense. It is usually the first thing plea bargained out or not prosecuted at all. Now that is logic well used. mspart

I know the relationship. You want an air conditioner where bananas grow. mspart

Pinned his way through the tourney. So those 25 losses was not an indication. mspart

Ishiguro beat Amine 2-0, he beat Zahid 11-0. Now Amine and Zahid are in the bronze medal match. Knowing that, I would say this might be a struggle for Zahid. Perhaps it was a style thing. mspart

Yeah, I hear you. Cops cannot chase bad guys by state law. They can steal a car in front of the cops and they cannot give chase because that is not a violent offense. I kid you not. As a result, car thefts are at an all time high and so are the amount of people not stopping for cops when they put their lights on. Police will not arrest shoplifters if they have less than $125 of stuff. Woke prosecutors let them go. Overall crime is up and violent crime is up because due to defunding police and continuing the firing of police and other folks for not having taken the jab, there is not enough personnel to do much anymore. And with the lack of prosecution, there is no point anymore. They hammer on law abiding gun owners regarding gun violence but do nothing about those that have and use them illegally. It is a crazy place for sure. And now the local King County (Seattle is within King County) homeless outfit wants only 12 Billion to solve homelessness. Billions have been spent already and the problem has only gotten worse. Tent cities are all over the place and homeless are passed out on the street in their fecal matter and other waste high on heroin or fentanyl. It is more merciful, for our local politicos, to allow this rather than get these people into treatment to resolve their addiction. Everything is backwards here. It is really a weird place and that happened in the last 20 years. Before that it was one of the most livable cities in the country. Not anymore. Liberals in Seattle and King County have successfully ruined the area for years to come in just a few short years. mspart

The Google failed me. mspart

And don't stand in front of the guy with the hammer. I can't even imagine that. He looked like he took a good swing, amazing Pelosi is not dead already. mspart

Gas went up another 10 cents a gallon. That is 20 cents a gallon in less than a week. And this is at the cheapest gas stations where I get gas. They are always way under the competition so they are feeling the wholesale difference. Gotta love that carbon tax. While everyone else's gas is going down in price, ours is going up. mspart

This is a really interesting one. Just incredible really. So smooth with this instrument. Notice the frets are very odd. mspart

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Second-Amendment Here is an interesting treatise on this topic. It states what the Founders thought about the topic and how the SCOTUS has interpreted it. Interesting fact, the first SCOTUS test was in 2008. I think it is endlessly fascinating how some folks deny the plain written language of the 2nd Amendment. However, the plain written language of the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc, is sacrosanct. In other words, the rights enumerated by the Bill of Rights are constitutional rights. No one would argue that the right to free speech is not a constitutional right. No one would argue that the right not to self incriminate is a constitutional right. Then why is it that owning a gun (bearing an arm) is not a constitutional right? mspart

Oh and the kid is off the team if he does anything close to that again. I would have canned DeSanto, I have no patience for this kind of thing. mspart

I agree with whoever said the ref should be scrutinized and the coach should be shown the door. There is no excuse for allowing this behavior on the mat. mspart

Ha!! True! mspart