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Is Messenbrink the new Stevenson?

Seems like you would enjoy Asimov's Robot and Foundation series.

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Right back at ya, Fadz. I always enjoy your posts. You are so knowledgable.

Indeed Haines is not a guarantee, but given what we saw in Iowa last week, and that Robb is 2-4 in his last 6, Haines is a heavy favorite. It would be a major upset if Robb were to beat him. As for Mesenbrink, I think he is one of those guys to whom his opponent's style does not matter. I admittedly do not know much about Taylor, though.

Certainly the first three weights are toss ups. Wrestlestat has all three going to PSU, but I do not see that happening. Wrestlestat also has Kasak beating Lovett which would be a major upset. I do not see that happening either. The only match wrestlestat has going Nebraska's way is the other clear toss up to me, Pinto v Truax. I think Nebraska gets 1 or 2 of the first three weights, Lovett, and Pinto making it 7-3 to PSU, maybe 6-4, but I think 7-3.

You are correct. In the years immediately following WW2 they briefly allowed freshman to be eligible. So, in 1950 Dick Hutton (1,1,2,1 for Oklahoma St) and Joe Scarpello (1,3,2,1 for Iowa) became the first two four timers. And unless they started the finals at Heavyweight Scarpello would have barely preceded Hutton.

Boom, roasted. You have my vote.

Is it me, or is it him? It's him, isn't it?

Gary Breece (Oklahoma) and Jarrett Hubbard (Michigan) were the first two in the modern era. But they were actually the third and fourth overall. Can you name the first two?

Agree. I think the split has served both parties well. It is just such a shame that Flo had to be such dicks about it.

I feel like he will be a very good coach. He is very thoughtful about his approach to the sport. He has developed a philosophy about how it should be taught and how athletes should be managed such that they have long term success. He has used his wrestling academy to test his theories and it has worked exceptionally well. Given his strong opinions and given that he now can prove his methods work, I do not see him accepting an assistant coaching position where he may need to work within someone else's system such that he may need to compromise.

I have mentioned "The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York" by Robert Caro before. An amazing book that studies power, how it is acquired, how it is used, how it affects people, through the lens Robert Moses, the man who is most responsible for the way New York City looks and works today, though few had ever heard of him. It is a mere 1,344 pages long. A nice, breezy summer read. There is also a podcast going on right now that geeks out on the book in installments (99% Invisible on Spotify).

57 kg - I want to say Arujau, but he seems like he is dealing with something and still needs to cut. I am going with Spencer Lee 65 kg - Keep it in the family, Nick Lee. He has Diakomihalis' and McKenna's number. 74 kg - Dake 86 kg - Taylor 97 kg - Snyder 125 kg - Parris I just do not see a changing of the guard yet at 74 - 125

After googling that, this is what I found on an OSU board: https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/board/101483/Contents/flo-vs-saylorrokfin--154569857/

Wasn't it something open to interpretation like, "What is going on in Columbus?"

great to see you back on FRL

Not necessarily. From the NCAA selection criteria grid: A wrestler needs 8-matches to trigger winning percentage standard. A wrestler with less than 8 matches would not be eligible for the winning percentage and RPI which means they could not meet 2 of the 3 standards. A wrestler DOES NOT need 15 matches to earn an pre-allocated spot for the conference, if the wrestler meets the threshold in winning percentage and coaches rank.

You know I love some word play, so I am ok either way. One thing I said above needs to be corrected. RPI is also one possible criteria in the at-large qualification process.

just starting now. No spoilers.

Yes, Surber too. I was looking at the Intermat rankings which have him 11-3, but 4 of those were against non-D1 and won't count for RPI. So I am sure there are others.

The 2020 season counted against eligibility even though there was no tournament. As a result the seniors in 2020 got screwed. By making 2021 the free year, the NCAA effectively took the 2020 seniors' eligibility and transferred it to high school seniors. Thus you have Starocci with the chance to win five NCAA titles instead of four. Which is bad enough, but it also means that, in spite of not having wrestled for the past two years AJ Ferrari still has a chance to be a four time winner, even though he is an all-time loser. I can see why you would assume this would not be the case. It was one of the all-time worst decisions made by the NCAA, and there is a lot of competition for the title.

The conference tournaments do not matter for RPI purposes as the pre-allocation spots are determined prior to the tournaments. Then the tournaments can be used to fill the spots. It is only dual and tournies prior to 2/26 that count. So anyone sitting on 12 or fewer matches will probably need to pick up a tournie somewhere to get to 15. Scanning I see: DeAugustino, Figueroa, and Trombley at 125, Arujau, Fix, Schriever, Rini, and Madrigal at 133, Vasquez, and Carlson at 141, Gomez, and Gioffre at 149 Lewan, and Lee at 157 no one at 165 Starocci, Lewis, Mocco, Turley, Wolak, Eischens, and Sparks at 174 Truax, and Howard at 184 Brooks, and Elam at 197 Kerkvliet, Schultz, Pitzer, Luffman, Gordon, and Tinker at 285

Smith, too.