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This is just making me bitter all over again about the Camelot of sportswriting falling apart. Did I actually used to have my week planned around when the latest issue would hit the mailbox? Did that really happen?

If you cut him I literally believe he'd bleed black and gold. I think he's the closest to an embodiment of Gable, more than the Brands or anyone else. The way he wrestled. And the way he thinks and talks, he has that plain, guileless way of expressing himself - it's striking.

Outstanding! Any diagnosis ever made public? Sprained knee/partial tear?

I'm all for it. But has any news been shared that suggests it's a possibility? I'm hoping I missed it. Last I saw Gomez he had a look on his face that meant he didn't think he'd be back this year.

It's too bad. Sometimes Grace does a real play by play and it's quite good, so that means they just choose not to for large swaths of the dual. One of the matches they just yakked for well over a minute at the beginning of the match without even saying that it had started. You could guess by the background noise that it probably had but didn't know for sure until they mentioned as an aside during their conversation that the wrestler guys who the 15,000 people were there to watch were wrestling.

I am traveling and BTN won't allow me to watch the match off my cable package remotely so I am left to radio. Grace and Ironside are a nice team together and very pleasant but, geez, they literally don't seem to understand the basic necessities of a radio broadcast. It's like watching the match with two cool buddies commenting. Except I'm not watching, all I've got is their commentary, which only occasionally includes painting a verbal picture of the match, or mentioning things like scores, time, who's doing what move, etc. It would be perfect to listen to synced up to a TV broadcast. But alas.

Good idea and correct realistic understanding of how it won't happen. Although I think you couldn't go wrong with 165 last whoever the finalists are.

They both got majorly screwed in their quest for truly notable careers with the rare feat of four finals. But to me the big victims were Pletcher, Moore, and Lugo. All three of them had put it all together in their last year, looked like the best at their weights, but never got the chance to win their elusive national championship.

Absolutely. College wrestling needs to bottle the whole event last night. Cured a lot of the ills which have been belabored on this board for a while. The wrestlers wrestled, there was a lot of attacking, there were pins, terrific crowd, good behavior on both sides, and Carr topped it off with a clinic.

What if there had never been a Constitutional Convention, the Articles of Confederation were still in force, and there was no such thing as interstate commerce?

But if they do this, everyone will downgrade the accomplishments of the poor guys who win NCAAs at 61/134, 70/154, 79/174, and 92/202.

Spoken like a recovering moderator.

100% agree. Do it!! I just started season one again. Being hooked on it is one of them good problems to have.

Sounds like one of them good problems to have. (Speaking of every situation in life being able to be described by a line from Sopranos/Seinfeld/Wire, in this case Marlo Stanfield from the latter.)

That son of a bitch stole it!

The AA sponsor/forger double bonus! There is literally a Seinfeld, Sopranos, or Wire scene that covers every situation in life. Or Curb Your Enthusiasm - is Groat's Disease named for Dick Groat?

Yet Lou Gehrig got Lou Gehrig's disease.

While it's kind of weird for someone at Starocci's level to get so very worked up by an opponent nowhere near, some super competitive guys always look to find motivation somewhere. Watch Michael Jordan's Hall of Fame induction speech sometime - the pettiness and score settling byt this demigod with mere mortals is beyond cringing.

Is it OK on this college board to point out that Garrett and DeSanto scored one point less in their match than the combined scoring in the 7 non-fall matches in the Penn State - Iowa dual? Sorry couldn't help myself.

Agree that's his usual M.O. But I think that the fact that he usually wrestles that way doesn't mean he can't, if needed, rack up a big score on an opponent not in his class. If I was in the situation OSU was in I'd feel good about him being able to win by double digits. World silver medalist vs 26th ranked college guy, lower weights, I think the outcome of that match was the likely one. It was just a 2 point near fall (actually I thought it probably wasn't two seconds past 45 degrees).

That's why he missed the rowing meet. He was busy breaking down football film.

Yes but to be totally fair to readers of the board, you posited Lee giving up wrestling for coaching or AD as a possible key reason he wouldn't pan out in freestyle. Now you are talking about 8-10 years. There are two Olympics in the next five, suggesting that if healthy he could compete and then be considered for the coaching job. He's not going to be hired as athletic director without substantial administrative experience.

Good question - answer is yes, basically. I think that if Lee is physically where he was during the pin streak, he's got a much higher ceiling. And I think that even if Lee gets impaired by injuries, he could come close to DeSanto. So to me overall I like Lee's future better. But I am intrigued and hopeful about DeSanto's prospects, he is so dedicated that it would be great to see him at least in the mix for U.S. world teams.

That first guy.

That's a pretty good guy he was up against.