Hillbilly Jim

157 Downey dec Chumbley

125 consi: Luna maj dec Ventresca

I still can't get them either....

Good question--but I guess if he can make 157, I don't see anyone they have that he wouldn't handle after Franek is gone. And honestly, I'd actually like to see that matchup with Franek once PK gets into wrestling shape.

OK. Did I miss something? Is Williams hurt or did he get beat out by Travis? What's the word?

No Jordan Williams?

And Herman….

OK good--I mean with your references to sausage fest, metric shit-ton and herp derp dumb***duck duck goose**ery, I figured your take was legit and coming from an educated perspective. So in the spirit of making the conversation fun as you suggest--just respond directly to my point where said I don't see the logic in your take that it could be that most dudes aren't interested in middle of nowhere schools. Because a quick look at the top programs suggests otherwise.

Well if you read my post I did not comment on your engineering sausage fest point--not sure why you bring it up again other than to try and deflect or re-frame your "middle of nowhere" point. And umm...for the record, you were the one who initially brought up middle of nowhere comment--not @PortaJohn when you said "Could be that most dudes aren’t interested in a middle of nowhere sausagefest engineering school if they are going to already make the sacrifices necessary to be a D1 athlete?" But whatever man.....

I guess I don't see the logic in your "middle of nowhere" take. My kids have recently been in and are currently in the wrestling recruiting mix. So between them and our dozens upon dozens of wrestling friends being recruited right now--very rarely do I hear kids reference this as a concern or deciding factor amongst higher end programs. I mean just look at the locations of SO MANY top programs: VA Tech (Blacksburg); Cornell (Ithaca); OK St (Stillwater); Nebraska (Lincoln); Missouri (Columbia); Iowa St (Ames). Even Iowa City and State College are really just college towns too. Honestly most kids I know actually like the college town experience more. And in case you haven't checked it out lately, I'd say Illinois has been recruiting quite well under its new head coach. I think the HC and other factors might have a lot more to do with recruiting success than proximity to a major city.

Wow. I didn’t know Taylor was going to be up at 165. Any word on who Lovett and Robb beat? What about the youngsters—anyone impress?

No argument on that from me...

I got Meyer in that one.

I'd be shocked if Swisher was not the guy at 149.

They have a young roster with lots to work out. WrestleStat lineup is probably off on multiple weight classes right now.

Is Kannon Webster for sure gonna redshirt? Is he gonna be 141 or 149?

Yes any others would surprise me...

OOH--GOOD CATCH....

Good call--these are intermat's rankings from before Wittlake's transfer though. Not sure if they will be updated by when the season starts.....

Relax man--I never said anything about "betting markets"...those are your words. I just meant amongst friends dude...like your Mom.

Not public.

I will start. I think Ohio St. will finish higher than this ranking and Arizona St. will finish a bit lower simply due to numbers of NQ's.....

Time for NCAA Wrestling. Who do you think is underrated on the list and why? I got some bets to make... Tournament Rankings RANK SCHOOL CONFERENCE POINTS NCAA FINISH 1 Penn State Big Ten 141.5 1 2(T) Missouri Big 12 65 5 2(T) Virginia Tech ACC 65 9 4 Cornell EIWA 62.5 3 5 Nebraska Big Ten 57.5 8 6 Michigan Big Ten 55.5 6 7 Arizona State Pac-12 54 7 8 Iowa Big Ten 48 2 9 NC State ACC 46 10 10 Oklahoma State Big 12 43 18(T) 11 Iowa State Big 12 38.5 11 12 Ohio State Big Ten 33 4 13 Rutgers Big Ten 26 34 14(T) Illinois Big Ten 25.5 31 14(T) Oklahoma Big 12 25.5 40 14(T) South Dakota State Big 12 25.5 14 17 Northern Iowa Big 12 25 16(T) 18(T) Northern Colorado Big 12 23.5 23 18(T) Wisconsin Big Ten 23.5 16(T) 20 Oregon State Pac-12 23 29 21 North Carolina ACC 22.5 12 22 Minnesota Big Ten 21.5 15 23 Purdue Big Ten 20 20(T) 24 Air Force Big 12 18 18(T) 25 Lock Haven MAC 17 30 26 Penn EIWA 16.5 32 27 Pittsburgh ACC 13 22 28 Indiana Big Ten 11 38 29 Lehigh EIWA 10 20(T) 30 Maryland Big Ten 9.5 36

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