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Not that it matters, but there is no 4th place trophy starting this year. Brands is only interested in titles.

Really??? If you start at top of string (not just where you jump in and change to “solid”), it says: NM1965: The Big 12 looks pretty strong Me: I was going to say the opposite. Other than 165,184,197,285, they look weak. You: 125 #1 -5 are solid Me: Their rankings are 6,8,14,15,16, I wouldn’t call that pretty strong. You: I’m sticking with 125 is pretty solid Me: solid is different than pretty strong that I was originally responding to a different poster (NM1965) you: Then you started the whole changing the goalpost! Call it whatever you want, they would likely be seeded 5,6,10,11,12 if at the Big 10. That’s not very impressive to me.

Follow the string - you originally responded to my post that I didn’t agree with the other poster’s comment that Big 12 was pretty strong. YOU are the one that moved the goalpost by lowering it to solid. And he said “could” AA. That doesn’t mean they will or even agree they could. Big deal, the Big 10 “could” have 6-8 AA in every weight. In both football and wrestling, the Big 12 has lumped together all these teams that other conferences didn’t want and now trying to pass off as an elite conference.

Yes and my response to you clearly said I wouldn’t call that pretty strong.

Yes unbiased 3rd party rankings, what else is better to go on lol. And 2 or 3 “could” AA at bottom of podium. Lol that doesn’t sound like pretty strong.

“Solid” is different than “Big 12 is pretty strong” that I originally responded to from a different poster. As usual, Big 12 is pretty weak compared to Big 10 except for the weights I mentioned.

They are ranked 6,8,14,15,16 in latest Flo rankings. I wouldn’t call that “pretty good”, especially compared to Big 10 of 1,2,4,5,9,11,12.

Really? I was going to say the opposite. Other than 165,184,197,285 these look very week. Swiderski #1, Gaitan 2??? That is weak

There will be! This is best rivalry in wrestling. Two greatest teams in history.

Most teams have 25-30 guys, let the healthy ones wrestle!

All the Iowa haters would be roasting Brands if he did this.

Was that the last sellout? 2020 - 4 years ago? That really defines the lack of competition in the Big 12.

“Worst room in the country to go to”?? Other than Penn St, what room would they have had more success in than Iowa? Maybe Mich, Cornell - but those teams aren’t beating Penn St either. Iowa is the clear #2 the last ten years, no one else even close.

And Mesenbrink

He entered a guilty plea 5-30-2023 and served time. So the question remains, why is he allowed at ISU and getting no scrutiny?

Not defending AJ, but this football player actually plead guilty. AJ was not found legally guilty. That still stands for something in America and IC. But since you are questioning AJ and why he is allowed in IC, have you also asked why Echemendia is allowed to start at ISU and be in Ames? A Cuban allowed to be at an American university and he plead guilty to choking his wife unconscious. And they even let him hold the little kid in the picture after helping to find him lol.

Nice picture - they let the guy that was charged with felony assault for choking his wife unconscious hold the child!

Maybe, but AJ should have been done before Angelo even in college. Also, didn’t the mom raise them also? She seems to be getting a pass in this mess.

Dresser took Echemendia, so you never know!

True - although wouldn’t be the first fan base to be forgiving: PSU - Andrew Long, ISU - Echemendia, I’m sure others as well

Agree - and it’s something that is happening in colleges across the nation, not just the state of Iowa.

But hold on! Clearly Dresser is doing a great job at ISU and should be coach of year!

Dresser said he was expecting a full house - looks like about 300-400 lol. Compare that to the picture of Ohio State. Year 7 for Dresser - still no top 10 finishes.

Dresser - entering year 7 and still not in top 10. Carr has been the only high AA and he will be done after this year.

I agree. Dresser has been there 6 years and still hasn’t been in top 10. Panino, Shwiderski and Cbittum wouldn’t have all been in the lineup this year anyway, with Cody moving up. Someone would have redshirt.