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5 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Horsepower also has a lot to do with it as well.  97 KG is just over 16lbs heavier than 197lbs.  Adding an additional 16lbs to that frame is a lot.  Actually, a more accurate statement would be that losing an additional 16lbs off of his already very lean 97 KG (~213lbs) frame is a detriment to his peak performance capabilities.

This confused me so hard for about twelve seconds.

I was like "HFS he wrestled Nico?!"

I was concerned about that!

Seriously though, did anyone see this match?  Had a lead and power bombed Bonnacorsi in the 3rd. Match went into OT, where Trumble lost.

7:25 ish

1 minute ago, Gus said:

He has had nice wins in Folkstyle but is a zero time AA in 2 tries. In freestyle he is a U23 world champion and made the finals of the US Olympic trials. 

Yes.  I think it is the weight, and the more he makes it the tougher he gets.  He makes it 2-3 days in a row and it takes a lot out of him.

My Wolfpack has also been underperforming as a team at the NCAA tournament.  I don't think it is the overseeding stuff with saw with Mizzou in the MAC.  There might be some of that but NC state has been placing below guys they have beaten during the regular season, so there might be peaking issues... perhaps weight related.

2 hours ago, Gus said:

Makes you wonder how much his lack of folkstyle success is related to making 197. He is very good in freestyle, meaning his neutral skills are good. In folkstyle, he is definitely above average on top. So either he is terrible on bottom or the cut is far too big and he is a shell of himself.

I mean, he has beaten Nico Bonnacorsi and blew a match against Nico via power bomb the year Nico won it.

17 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

 

Duke destroyed a tough bracket full of guys to make the U20 team. 

And a career win over Lockett, I believe.

27 minutes ago, Gus said:

2X NCAA Champ, 3X Pan Am Champ

OTT

6 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Kerk was exposed against Gwiazdowski in that Gwiazdowski showed that Kerk cannot chain wrestle.  I don't know if anyone can expose that in the Collegiate Folkstyle scene.

Good analysis.  I'm sure his opponents will working on developing that ability, as much as it is capable of being developed in less than a year.

18 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

the most interesting pieces to me are Feldman who narrowed the gap each time and seemed to make huge jumps as the season went on. Also given he did not do u23's I assume hes all in on the folkstyle season. Keuter who lost 9-1 but had been in the room for what 2 months, and now for the first time in probably 8 years is focused exclusively on wrestling. Lastly Wyatt who is finally in a legitimate room. If I was a betting man and I am I would potentially bet on the field against Kirk this year however he still should be a decent stand-alone favorite.

Kerk is the heavy favorite, but it is definitely not a settled matter.

Most expected a better performance out of Kerk at OTT.  _Plenty expected him to be our rep.  He wasn't close.

It was also a surprise to see him forgo U23. 

Another thing to keep in mind with Kerk is his injury history and him currently wrestling without an ACL or two.

43 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Keuter says he's focused on wrestling and just won U23 -- he presumably will be the starter.

At the same time, Cassioppi is rumored to be reinstated and will return to Iowa for his final season.

 

No

8 hours ago, TBar1977 said:

The penn state wrestling room is first and foremost a place of god(they're purging the undesirable elements deep into the midwest), and second and secondmost a place of fun. Kueter is certinaly a generational talent and will radically inflate the reputation of any program he's associated with, but he's a dodgeball liability and doesn't know his way around a bouncy castle. We'll take a Nevills before him!

My guess: he is pretty good at dodgeball as a four sport high school athlete.

8 hours ago, JeanGuy said:

I hate to be that guy but his "choice" probably came from a heart to heart with Ferentz. Not in the plans. 

It's not 100% but after a season they probably fell like they know what they have in him. 

He did win a team award or two as a freshman.  "Leadership award" for defense/special teams, if I am not mistaken.

Just now, Hammerlock3 said:

he's not gonna have any more. saying he'll be there next spring is just being nice.

That is my guess as well.

3 hours ago, billyhoyle said:

The problem is he’s undersized compared to NFL linemen and doesn’t know any pass rushing technique. The practice squad has limited spots, and a number of them are essentially reserves that are ready to be activated after an injury. He is a camp invite for press and because the coach likes wrestling. It’ll be a cool experience, but that’s it really. 

All that is true.  I think he's also going to have a really difficult time understanding what is going on around him in the trenches.  He likely thinks its going to be like playing Madden.

2 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

I understood that, but presumed once he quit  football, wrestling is paying the bill, and in that light i don't know why you would say they "let him take a year of eligibility on wrestling".

I'm sure he won't be on a football scholarship next year.

 

But that gives him only three more football seasons.

13 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Maybe they are anticipating the removal of scholarship limits, but the imposition of roster limits, and thinking of it as a way to park an athlete off roster?

Exactly.  Just not sure when it will hit.

27 minutes ago, SetonHallPirate said:

Somewhat surprised the football coaches would let him spend a year of eligibility (his football redshirt was taken last year) on wrestling...he is a football counter, after all. (by rule)

When do scholarship limits disappear?  Prob not yet determined?  They are on the way out as of the latest court ruling.

2 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

Your post count mak3es this question funny. 

You just need to work harder.

Just now, Pinnacle said:

I can't edit that post. Note taken, his injury made his desire for 74Kg impossible. That was his original intention. 

If he's near weight, it shouldn't have been a problem  Never was for Spencer Lee.

You literally said he wrestled 74 kg at trials.  That is what you said and believed.  Why would you say he wrestled at 86 kg?  Wouldn't have made your point.  

sad

2 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

I hear them talk about cutting weight, but nothing more than others wrestlers who talk about cutting weight. They do get interviewed more. 

Why are you so sensitive?  Enjoy your titles, stop crying about perceived slights.

2 hours ago, Pinnacle said:

 

The PSU msg board has elevated you to Chief Conspiracy Theorist and this kind of stuff is why. 

Awesome! I'll have to visit!

2 hours ago, Pinnacle said:

Let's go one at a time here.

Didn't Drake Ayala just compete at about 125 this past weekend. Maybe Iowa cuts at a high level too? 

 

Drake may be getting big for 125.  He may be experimenting with 133.  Iowa has known to have been  bigweight cutters, at least historically.  

I haven't heard much about a lot of their guys having "tough cuts" for a bit now, but it is possible.

But this isn't about them, it is about a surprising large number of PSU guys saying they have have had tough cuts.  I just did not expect that.

2 hours ago, Pinnacle said:

Let's go one at a time here.

 

174 Starocci. 4x Champ. Won on one leg, then went and wrestled 74 Kg at Trials. 

What universe to you live in?  Holy crap!

1 hour ago, Pinnacle said:

Its true some wrestlers with large cuts have success and I am not arguing that. I just cant carve Penn State out like they are some sort of outlier which is nonsense. 

 

Who said they were an outlier?  You were the first to use that term.  Please go back and re-read.  I thought guys were wrestling near their natural weight for a long time.  DT for example.  This is clearly not the case.

2 hours ago, Pinnacle said:

So "information coming out of state college" now is bonafide "facts". I thought it was de facto rumor mill, regardless of how big any wrestler appears to be. 

I've heard DT and RBY say it with my own ears.  DT on multiple occasions.  

Also Brooks and Starocci.  

You must not get out much.

8 minutes ago, Gus said:

Davis, Haines, Starrocci here all huge at their weight classes and had to be pulling a ton of weight. Beau Bartlett is a good sized 141 pounder. 

Keep in mind many (not all) of the PSU faithful are some of the thinnest skinned members of the forum.  This level of success seems to have built some sensitivity.  We are simply stating facts.

20 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

 

High level of weight cutting at Penn State? Not from what I can tell. Keep in mind what we are talking about here, a record setting squad where the only two guys who started for them this year who ever had wrestled at a higher weight were Beau Bartlett and Bernie Truax. Bartlett spent time as a pudgy 149 and is now an NCAA finalist at 141 and Bernie Truax who while he wrestled one year at 197, he also wrestled at 149, 165, 174 and 184 where he competed at Penn State. 

It's not that they were dropping last year.  They have a history of not being able to maintain their weights.  And before you say "Cael is letting them grow; that is smart and fun, " keep in mind the repeated admissions and rumors about PSU guys having trouble making weight. 

- DT is on the record saying he was cutting a ton of weight in college and certainly had disordered eating.

- 133 lb RBY admitted to having to lose 10+ lbs daily at NCAA tournaments after getting up to mid 140s each night.

- 184 was very tough for Brooks and apparently 86 kg is brutal.  I think 197 wasn't super easy for him.

- Starocci never wants to go 174 again.  Looked like a decent sized 86 kg and plans on 197.

- Kasak couldn't make 154 over the weekend and apparently 149 was tougher as the season went on.

- Davis had a tough cut to 125, allegedly.

- For two years we have heard that 157 was a tough cut for Levi.  Took him a bit to get into his groove this year.  Supposedly going up a weight or two.

I know that weight cutting happens everywhere.  I just don't hear this much of this type of stuff outside of OSU.  It seems like guys are going up in weight because the cut is miserable.  Yes, it is a fantastic program and they are well-coached great wrestlers.  Whatever they are doing works.

I just wouldn't have associated the program with "tough cuts" until relatively recently.