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He never does. He just likes to get peoples undies in a bunch. mspart

Israel. mspart

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So you want an irrelevant independent candidate in the Presidential race once every 4 years with no ground game to get him/her the support he/she needs to be successful. I guess you are right. Such a candidate is not relevant. mspart

They are so advanced!! mspart

You guys are hilarious. I guess this thread has run its course. mspart

It is relevant. If we only get an independent running for Pres every 4 years, what is the draw? A vote for them is not much of a statement. If there was a viable 3rd party that was getting people in the Congress, that would be a better message to send. Once every 4 years makes such a candidate irrelevant. mspart

Poor Ken. But he's up for an Oscar. mspart

Ken was not snubbed. mspart

What chance does Kennedy Jr have? How about Peter Sonski? Cornell West? Joe Manchin if he runs as an independent? Ross Perot was a spoiler. At the risk of being that person, who is a viable candidate that is not an R or D? It would be nice if an independent could grab enough attention to get elected. But it doesn't happen. This isn't Madam Secretary. mspart

Discuss. mspart

That is both hilarious and sad all at the same time. mspart

I can say that we have two new hires here in my engineering group. Both women. Both are competent. One is a little more motivated than the other. One whines about how hard the job is, the other doesn't. I don't know if the hires were DEI related or not. You get the same dynamic with guy hires. mspart

I'm ok with reggae. I don't go out of my way to listen. But I'm not offended like I am with disco or rap. mspart

I am sad DeSantis is no longer in the race. He was the guy I was interested in. I understand his reasoning. mspart

So now we have it. Resorted to name calling. But before that, you resorted to acting like a 3 year old asking why about everything. Why is 2+2 = 4. Because that is life. But why? Because two fingers plus two fingers is 4 fingers. But why? Because Isaac Newton said so. But why? Because he invented the idea of gravity. But why? Because he wanted to do it before the German guy did it. But why? Because you'll be in time out if you ask why again. But why? Ok, time out. But why? Door slams. Yes this is a ridiculous example to type out. But you are the little 3 year old and it is impossible to have a conversation with you when you demand answers but provide none. We've had that here before many times. Always irritating to say the least. Nobody argues with your right to ask a question. But when you refuse to answer questions, it is not a conversation anymore, just an attempt at misdirection. You are the example the title of this thread is talking about. mspart

You are conflating two very different issues. Voting and votes should be without question reliable and secure. If not, then that should be investigated. This is different from my house being investigated which would be a violation of my constitutional rights. Looking into voting malfeasance is not against any constitutional right. Your example is an example of refusing to see what is right in front of you and making up argument to try to divert attention from what is right in front of you. Can't see the forest for the trees is apt. mspart

Bob Marley? Funny story, my brother in law was a dentist, now retired. He is a classical music enthusiast and always had that playing in his office from the local Classical music station. He was our dentist so we saw him every 6 months or so. One day I hear reggae playing which I thought was nice. After awhile I couldn't stand it any longer and asked him why he was playing reggae rather than classical. His answer surprised me. He said for a change of pace, he chose reggae. Because how can you be anything but happy or content listening to reggae. My jaw dropped. I guess it was easier for him to look in there after that!! Useless story but thought I'd share. mspart

I think the answer is that the individual common man needs to start running for the positions rather than the idiots currently running. But that won't happen because the common man has to feed his and his family's face. Using man here as generic, could be man and/or woman. mspart

Certainly happening here in WA. mspart

This is borne out in the Pilgrims experience. They were a commune where everything was held in the community. The results of that were similar to your example. Then individual enterprise was tried by allowing the folks to do with their land whatever they wanted. Soon food was more plentiful and general welfare increased dramatically. Equality of outcome leads to lower results, it is human nature. Individual accountability generally leads to greater results and better conditions for the community. That also is human nature. mspart

Admitting you don't have it? mspart

Perhaps there is no evidence. Perhaps there is. Has an exhaustive investigation taken place? This guy demonstrated how easily it could be done and that it could affect all machines in the county. So how long did it take for the media and democrats to stop with the Russian Collusion hoax? It was years until the Mueller investigation showed there was no such thing. And even then, the media and Ds still did not let go of that lifeline. So there is no evidence right now, but that doesn't mean it couldn't have happened. Isn't it time, based on the ease with this this guy subverted the machines, to mount some kind of investigation of this? mspart

3 Like Russian hoax taken as truth? Like the lie that border patrol agents were whipping Haitians? Like the lie that a woman and two children were drowning in the Rio Grande and that TX officials prevented Border Patrol from saving them? Like Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation? Each of these were accepted as truth until proven as lies, conspiracy theories. So the government is not in such a position to determine if something is a conspiracy theory or not as they promulgate them. So who then is that benevolent person? mspart

Maybe talks about it here. https://www.flowrestling.org/people/5936337-nick-simmons/video?playing=6744998 mspart