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My brother-in-law whose sons are wrestlers to me and my drinking age son: "You walk into a bar with cauliflower ears and nobody messes with you." My son: "What kind of bar are you walking into?"

Good point. I read it as defending even though he said returning.

I will go with: Spencer Lee Diakomihalis Brooks RBY Starocci O'Toole Dean I refuse to live in a world where three timers are not most likely to repeat. They will both repeat. And I hope it happens by Lee pinning the field while Diakomihalis takes five 1 point victories. I have the two timers next. For me Brooks is the clear number 3 and I have a hard time separating RBY and Starocci. But Lewis has a title and Fix does not, so there you go. Next come the one timers. O'Toole looks great, but so did David Carr after his first title. Dean's weight has the least separation among the top 8 or so, in my opinion, making it the toughest to show clear separation from the field.

So here is the weird thing. There were no extra spaces. But somewhere deep in the bowels of machine readable characters there was some difference. So I just replaced the one with the other and all is right with the Tigers world.

Seeding is everything - coach before and during seeding meeting Seeding doesn't matter - same coach after seeding meeting

He is. And he is in there as a 3x and a 1x. There must be an extra space in the line with 1x. I will fix that. So now the Brian Smith unique AA's are 30, but still 62 total AA's.

I guess we fundamentally disagree. Also the premise was make the final, rather than win the final. How many had Kizhan Clarke making the 141 final last year (or getting the first takedown)? A chip and a chair.

Checks category. Yep, it says Dark Horses. OK, what was the question again?

31 unique AA's, 62 total AA's.

I am claiming the victory here. I think John Smith has 145 AA's on his resume, not the 150 claimed in his official OSU bio. I have him at 134 through the 2019 season which matches the total the NCAA reports in this article that has stats through the 2019 season: https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2020-07-29/oklahoma-state-wrestling-championships-history-statistics

I understand. You don't like tough wrestling (research). In spite of that, I have amended the table to show unique AA's and average number of AA's per wrestler for the five coaches @fishbane listed in his post: You might note two other changes. When I compiled the data I only came up with 145 AA's for John Smith even though his bio on the Oklahoma State website says 150. And I came up with 111 AA's for Bobby Douglas rather than the 110 listed. Something to look into.

Twice as Nice: There have been 55 wrestlers who have AAed for two schools. The first to do that was Elias George who finished 3rd at 136 in 1946 for Indiana and 4th at 145 in 1949 for Oklahoma State. Ten four (five) time AA’s did it at two schools: Sebastian Rivera (5), Tyler Caldwell, Steve Mocco, Nick Gwiazdowski, Kevin Jackson, Joe Melchiore, Jaydin Eierman, Evan Wick, Cary Kolat, and Andrew Howe.

So I have true wisdom?

At least one. John Smith. There are 11 pairs in total. I assume many of these are father son pairs.

Tom Titsworth, 2nd place 157 lbs in 1952 has to be an alias, right?

Hmmm. The name is Ponzi, and you are making bold statements. Ok, checks out. I believe you.

Going deep on these. Nice.

Disclaimer: All numbers are subject to change as I find errors that I am sure are there. I have spent a fair amount of time on error detection, but the odds I got the all are plus or minus zero. From 1928 thru 2022 there have been 3,274 wrestlers who have earned All-American status. In total they have earned 5,509 honors. AA Trivia: In 92 NCAA tournaments there have only been two wrestlers named Brad Smith to All-American.... And they were in the same bracket. In 1976 Iowa's Brad Smith won the 142 lb. title while Toledo's Brad Smith took fourth at the weight. It is is shame they weren't both in the final. Would have been tough on the announcers, but fun for me. The biggest spread between All-Americans earned by a single wrestler is eight years. In 1950 Frank Altman took third at 121 for Northern Iowa (Iowa State Teachers College). After serving in the Air Force for four years he returned to college at Iowa State and took 4th at 115 in 1958. Pretty remarkable. https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/globegazette/name/frank-altman-obituary?pid=199769884 (More trivia to come, but have to run)

so is math, so be careful here.

zero. he would have just kept turning them as many times as it took.

For me it is Jesse Mendez.