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wrestlingstats has him at 43 also. that may be the same source as nwhof. http://www.wrestlingstats.com/ncaa/view_wrestlers.php?wrestler=3420

My favorite person. How could I forget?

Calling all historians. A comment on FRL this morning got me thinking about who has won an NCAA title with the most career losses? And who had the most losses in the season they won a title? I did a quick, very partial scan of wrestlingstats and the most I could find was J Jaggers with 32 career loses and J Jaggers with 9 loses in 2009 when he won as a senior.

excellent point

The flexibility/strength combination needed to defend that bow and arrow was amazing.

Atari? Luxury, sheer luxury.

There is an alternative theory being heatedly "discussed" on HR that Assad is in Brands' doghouse for getting pinned his last time out.

A couple reasons. The username was created moments before the first comment, implying it was created for this topic. And the user talked knowledgably about the history of the forum, implying they had been around to witness the history firsthand. I grant there are other conclusions you can draw from the above, but I concluded the user read the thread, didn't like what they read, and created a new username to say as much. The use of mascot/fan for SDSU was a nice touch too.

Mason Parris was the Indiana high school version of Bo Jackson. 3x state champ in wrestling, 3x first team all-state linebacker, 3x defensive player of the year, 2x state qualifier in shot put, 2x state qualifier in 110m hurdles.

I'm just curious what your other username thinks.

You will be hearing from my lawyers.

He's already HOF in my book.

Not wrong, just early.

Show me.

Not yet. There were too many top guys missing due to match count (Lee, RBY, Diakomihalis, etc). When they put out the next one that should not be an issue, so I will start including that poll then.

Nick Lee v Seabass is tasty too. Seabass said he came back last year specifically to beat Nick Lee after Lee got him in the semis of both the B1G and NCAA tourneys in 2021.

Yes, please, and thank you.

This isn't exactly right yet, but it gives you a general idea of the range of expected outcomes for the current top 10 teams as ranked by Intermat (but using my expected points). The expected points are the red line in the middle of the orange area for each team. The areas are based on the average plus and minus one standard deviation. And therein lies the rub. Standard deviations assume that the data is normally distributed. It is not. For example, PSU has more downside than upside, but this math treats them as equally probable. I may fix that in the future (or I may not - I am fickle that way). I just think this is more interesting because it allows every fan base to see the likely best from their team. For example, if PSU underperforms their seed it will still take an above average performance from Iowa to take the title, but it can be done. The race for second through fourth is much more up for grabs. Missouri and/or Cornell can overcome Iowa's advantage with an above average performance even if Iowa wrestles to seed. Caveat: Take it for what it is worth. A big pile of numbers, some mental masturbation, and voila. To quote my father, figures never lie, but liars always figure.

That is some intriguing stuff. Does anyone ever recall Iowa putting a TBA on their probables sheet?

Guilty as charged.

Yes, they are all over the place on Cole Matthews and Dayton Pitzer. Cole Matthews is still #1 on Wrestlestat while Intermat has him #3 and Flo has him #6. Flo does not even include Dayton Pitzer in their rankings as his red-shirt/not red-shirt status could still go either way (only 3 match days), but Intermat and Wrestlestat include him in their rankings.

Isn't winning it everyone's best case?

Are you volunteering?

Got me. I just started doing this with rankings this year. Last year was the first time I did anything with the data and I used the actual seeds to come up with predictions for the tournament. Then I updated the predictions based on each session's results. I got the first four positions correct. Nebraska and Northwestern did much, much better than I predicted. I had them at #14 and #16, respectively. They finished #5 and #6.

At the risk of distracting from the dirtiest thread on the Intermat forum, I give you the latest updated team rankings based on the intersection of Intermat, Flo and Wrestlestat rankings and expected points scored by seed based on NCAA tournaments from 2010 - 2022. It has been suggested in another thread that Cornell could finish as high as second this year. So let's focus on The Big Red Bears this week. Depending on who you believe Cornell looks to come in 4th or 5th based on their current rankings. But the margins are pretty tight in both directions. Sometimes it is best to average predictions. So let's do that. Here Cornell stands 4th. But to quote Satchell Page, "don't look back, someone may be gaining on you". Cornell edges out Nebraska in 5th but has a manageable gap to cover to catch Missouri in 3rd. Even Iowa up in 2nd is not out of the question. Which makes me think, I need to work on some sense of probabilistic ranges around these averages. Stay tuned. Of much less interest is the title race. Here Iowa has closed the gap a tad on PSU. Last week the gap between PSU and Iowa stood at 35.2 points on average. This week, after everyone realized that neither team can score from neutral, the gap has edged down to 31.7 on average.