VakAttack

Thought about this conversation when I ended up on BWI today scouring for Nagao news and got these two gems randomly: https://pennstate.forums.rivals.com/threads/transfer-portal.291745/page-69 which included, in reference to Nagao wrestling with Spencer if he chooses Iowa: "The faux GOAT don't roll like that." and "Like some young upstart is going to be allowed to touch Lord Spencer in live wrestling at practice." I think you're underestimating the things said about Spencer.

Why are you trying to bait me into an internet brawl?

Always a dangerous game. Mineo being the loser that he is. Another poster on HR, gobblin, described it thusly "the information on this is a shitshow."

Savage little knife in the story: "Carlson, who did not respond to a request for comment, has now been fired by all three cable news networks, having been pushed out from his previous stints at CNN and MSNBC."

It is not "pure speculation." It's extrapolating based on evidence. His last words on Fox News were "see you Monday." He did not see them on Monday. Now, if you want "pure speculation", you could read your last sentence. P.S. Bill O'Reilly was too big to fail, also.

It's objectively hilarious that Don Lemon doesn't even get to be the biggest news in cable firings on the day that salty bitch was fired.

He ended his show last Friday with something like "see you next week." The videos are everywhere. He got fired.

Good to know that God is an Iowa fan.

I'm on the record from the old board, I operate from the assumption that most elite athletes are on gas.

Can confirm, Willie is a good beer drinking companion.

I'm a pretty open book, I have no reason to play subtle games ona wrestling forum. I don't like Penn State, I don't root for them, but it would be awfully high and mighty for me to claim they were doing something sinister while my preferred team is flirting with AJ Ferrari.

I feel like I explicitly said they were doing nothing sinister. The Armstrong thing was not a direct comparison, sorry if it chapped your ass

While they can play with the redshirt and greyshirts, at some point this is going to affect actual eligibility years, and that's when some kids will start leaving. Not the cream of the crop, of course.

Nothing sinister at all. Just ihave no doubt these kids are getting paid. And they should! There's a growing wave of painting these decisions as purely altruistic and in the nature of the pursuit of greatness, and I have no doubt that Penn State's greatness is helping to draw kids to transfer....but they are also getting paid thru NIL, etc.

Got some real "Lance Armstrong is dominating the dirtiest sport in the world AND DOING IT WITHOUT CHEATING" vibes in the wrestling media right now, lol.

Finally something good happening for those guys.

This would be hilarious.

Let me seriously apologize on this one, I misread what Diaz wrote. It is very much an expansion, which is what it was always intended to do (the main point of what we were debating about on this subject, since you were saying it only applies to K-3) to cover through 12th grade. it still doesn't define anything for the teachers, such as what "discussion means" and is creating again an environment of fear. It's stil a curtailment of people's free speech rights. It's still all of those things. But it's an expansion.

I just gave you literal facts. The year before that it was Kem vs. Hidlay at 174 , with a relative wash but advantage NC State because of the head to head win, 184 clear advantage NC State, 197 clear advantage Iowa (all of this is discounting heavyweight, where Iowa holds a clear advantage. That year UNI went 2-2 at 174, Keckeisen took 3rd, and DNQ at 197 again. The year before that (2021) Kemerer took second at 174 while NC State DNQ and UNI went 0-2. Hidlay took second at 184, Brands went 1-2, and Keckeisen took 3rd. At 197, Warner took 4th, NC State went 0-2, and UNI again didn't qualify. Two years before that (Due to COVID) Iowa DNQ at 174, NC State went 1-2, and UNI also DNQ. At 184, Wilcke went 2-2, Reenan went 0-2 for NC State, and Foster won it for UNI. At 197, freshman Jacob Warner took 7th, Malik McDonald went 1-2 for NC State and UNI again DNQ. The year before that, Joey Gunther went 0-2 for Iowa at 174, Daniel Bullard went 1-2 for NC State, and Taylor Lujan lost in the blood round for UNI. Mitchell Bowman went 2-2 at 184, Pete Renda went 2-2 and lost in the blood round for NC State, and Drew Foster went 1-2 for UNI. At 197, Cash Wilcke went 3-2 and lost in the blood round for Iowa, Mike Macchiavello won it for NC State and Jacob Holschlag came in unseeded but placed 5th. 7 All Americans for Iowa, 5 for NC State, 5 for UNI.

Are Gabe Arnold and Keegan O'Toole in the transfer portal?

You're just trying to bag on Iowa for some reason. Iowa at those weights just went 5th-DNP-5th. UNI has Keckeisen and then did not qualify at either of the other weights. NC State has Hidlay, but went 0-2 at 174 and 1-2 at 197, both of their guys losing to their Iowa counterparts. Your blinded by your biases.

Listen man, lets not get crazy. I would expect Penn State to be favored to land most any transfer or recruit they actively seek, but the bolded part is just asinine. The only reason a wrestler in that weight range would go to Iowa is because NOBODY ELSE would take them? It's the second most successful college program going right now, has the biggest fanbase, and has world class coaches. Not being better than Penn State is not the same thing as being bad.

I'd favor Brooks in that stylistic matchup.

I wanted to correct the record, my apologies @mspart. I led you astray. This law hasn't been expanded to up to 8th grade. It covers all the way up to 12th grade (so that's all of school) and this is just a clarification, not an expansion. According to the DeSantis administration official quoted here, it has always applied to all grades. https://apnews.com/article/desantis-florida-dont-say-gay-ban-684ed25a303f83208a89c556543183cb

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/19/florida-desantis-travel-records-00092969 We continue the degradation of the separation of powers as Florida's legislature is now little more than Puddin' Fingers' little rubber stamp.