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  On 11/2/2022 at 3:43 PM, ionel said:

What makes for a "great place to coach?"  Is Minnesota (kind've cold), Indiana (who wants to be a hoosier) etc.?  

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I worry that OSU is seen as too much as a party school to attract the type of kids who are gonna be ultra elite, they dont seem to have amazing attendance either...so basically I see a social scene that discourages discipline and doesn't care that much about wrestling...through in the poor academic reputation...maybe not the right enviroment in 2022

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  On 11/3/2022 at 1:17 AM, Hammerlock3 said:

I worry that OSU is seen as too much as a party school to attract the type of kids who are gonna be ultra elite, they dont seem to have amazing attendance either...so basically I see a social scene that discourages discipline and doesn't care that much about wrestling...throw in the poor academic reputation...maybe not the right enviroment in 2022

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  On 11/3/2022 at 1:17 AM, Hammerlock3 said:

I worry that OSU is seen as too much as a party school to attract the type of kids who are gonna be ultra elite, they dont seem to have amazing attendance either...so basically I see a social scene that discourages discipline and doesn't care that much about wrestling...through in the poor academic reputation...maybe not the right enviroment in 2022

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Don't think I've ever seen them on a top list of Party Schools (Illinois used to always make it, Wisconsin back in the day).  Think their attendance prob up there top 5 or around 5th, they sell out Iowa and Penn State (PSU rarely been there), but yeah everyone else its not half full, but they have more capacity than most.

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  On 11/3/2022 at 1:35 AM, Crablegs said:

No one mentioning Pat Pop?  He’s killing it at NC State.

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thats why i started thinking about of OSU was that great a gig, it Pop gonna go there to lead a dry program? Would he be better off in any event? How much of OSU is john smith at this point?

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Who from outside the program, would even be willing to take that job, right after John Smith? Sure it seems like a great place to coach, has a lot of history, money doesn't seem to be an issue, no problem landing blue chip kids, and their attendance is not as bad as someone mentioned. But after 1 season and no team trophy, and they would be looking for a replacement. 

I went to Boise State dual in Stillwater back when J.O. was #1 & Hochstrasser was #2 at 133. It was a great dual and about 3/4 capacity.  

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  On 11/3/2022 at 2:03 AM, Hammerlock3 said:

thats why i started thinking about of OSU was that great a gig, it Pop gonna go there to lead a dry program? Would he be better off in any event? How much of OSU is john smith at this point?

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Hardly a "dry program" when you look at who they've had and who is coming in.  Pop could pull a Tom/Cael double team and win it first year, would've worked a couple years ago, prob work at some point in the future. 

That said, AJ did temporarily blow up the team.  

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  On 11/3/2022 at 2:28 AM, ionel said:

Hardly a "dry program" when you look at who they've had and who is coming in.  Pop could pull a Tom/Cael double team and win it first year, would've worked a couple years ago, prob work at some point in the future. 

That said, AJ did temporarily blow up the team.  

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I think what Hammerlock3 meant by "dry program" is that Pop doesn't allow drinking by his athletes. He runs a tight ship and it is not for everyone, but it seems to be working well in Raleigh. 

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  On 11/3/2022 at 2:34 AM, TexRef said:

I think what Hammerlock3 meant by "dry program" is that Pop doesn't allow drinking by his athletes. He runs a tight ship and it is not for everyone, but it seems to be working well in Raleigh. 

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ahh ... but I do think it can work, Pop seems to know how to sell it The Team and recruites.  

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  On 11/3/2022 at 2:28 AM, ionel said:

Hardly a "dry program" when you look at who they've had and who is coming in.  Pop could pull a Tom/Cael double team and win it first year, would've worked a couple years ago, prob work at some point in the future. 

That said, AJ did temporarily blow up the team.  

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ncst is dry

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  On 11/3/2022 at 1:17 AM, Hammerlock3 said:

I worry that OSU is seen as too much as a party school to attract the type of kids who are gonna be ultra elite, they dont seem to have amazing attendance either...so basically I see a social scene that discourages discipline and doesn't care that much about wrestling...through in the poor academic reputation...maybe not the right enviroment in 2022

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You are describing Arizona State.  They seem to be doing fine with all of those "limitations"....

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  On 11/4/2022 at 1:11 AM, Warm Up Champ said:

You are describing Arizona State.  They seem to be doing fine with all of those "limitations"....

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The crucial difference would be that its a lot easier to draw kids to tempe. So it has the same strengths but better, same weaknesses perhaps, but the have california to recruit also.

Think before you snear.

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