fishbane Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 In case you missed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lXhHMXT03I&t=20649s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elevator Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 5:58 AM, fishbane said: In case you missed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lXhHMXT03I&t=20649s Expand Did not know ADS's middle name was "James." AJDS! You have to give him credit for the heart and perserverance, down 10-2 and he finds a way. Has a lot of fight in him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 3:06 PM, Elevator said: Did not know ADS's middle name was "James." AJDS! You have to give him credit for the heart and perserverance, down 10-2 and he finds a way. Has a lot of fight in him! Expand 1 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Some say it is a virtue to learn from your mistakes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 3:18 PM, Elevator said: Some say it is a virtue to learn from your mistakes. Expand you can stop with your nuanced perspective right now, mister... we don't do that on the googlewebs!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 He came back from 10-2? Gotta ask what Nashon was doing. I have not seen the match. That is an incredible recovery. I don't particularly like DeSanto but that is perserverance which is something to admire. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 not having watched the match (nor planning to) it reads like a typical nashon match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 6:07 PM, mspart said: He came back from 10-2? Gotta ask what Nashon was doing. I have not seen the match. That is an incredible recovery. I don't particularly like DeSanto but that is perserverance which is something to admire. mspart Expand https://www.youtube.com/live/1lXhHMXT03I?feature=share Yeah, he gassed. Pretty non-stop action the whole match, and Desanto is relentless. Pretty good sportsmanship, too, at the end. Of course, Desanto won so... 5:44:03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I watched it live. Nashon did gas, but DeSanto seemed to downshift midway through the match and find a better gear for him. Reminds me a lot of Aaron Pico vs Jayson Ness at Olympic Trials. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I just watched the match and Garrett showed he is much better than DeSanto for the first period. Garrett looked awesome in that first period. He either gassed or lost concentration or something. I see no reason why he should have lost that match. As for DeSanto, kudos to him for continuing the pressure and take it to Nashon and getting the win. mspart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 but my dumb @ss wasted more minutes than that match was worth... i came out of thinking yep, same nashon as ever... no real technique, damn sure absolutely no defense, mentally suspect at best... the surprise came watching desanto and thinking just how bad he looked in that match... seriously, if either of them had any par terre at all that match looks like a regional cadet quarter final... instead it looks like a round of 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 i will never understand why in the women's style, our guys simply refuse to learn any par terre at all... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 8:56 PM, LJB said: i will never understand why in the women's style, our guys simply refuse to learn any par terre at all... Expand Why would the guys learn anything in (not from) the women's matches? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 i said nothing about women's matches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olddirty Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Questionable scoring big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 9:05 PM, LJB said: i said nothing about women's matches... Expand Did you read your own quote? The style consists of matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 9:31 PM, olddirty said: Questionable scoring big time Expand the only thing questionable is how sloppy the wrestling was to have allowed that many points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 9:32 PM, gimpeltf said: Did you read your own quote? The style consists of matches. Expand i just can't... moving on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 8:56 PM, LJB said: i will never understand why in the women's style, our guys simply refuse to learn any par terre at all... Expand Par terre is the weakest skillset for the women's team. Gut wrench is the weakest move. I see lots of leg laces and some trapped arm guts and a few high guts. Not so many low guts with quality technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 the women are way better than the men in the women's style at par terre... both sexes are awful as compared to an age level greco guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 10:47 PM, LJB said: the women are way better than the men in the women's style at par terre... both sexes are awful as compared to an age level greco guy... Expand One of the things that bothers me about the women's freestyle is that the amount of time you get on top (with some refs) is so short that you really don't have time to set much up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 which is more a function that they are not accomplishing anything while down there... because they do not make it a point to work on it... once or twice a year the guys will do one practice session with the greco guys and it is always equal parts laughable and embarrassing how even basic par terre technique is lost on them... that is as much on the coaches as the athletes... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 11:21 PM, LJB said: once or twice a year the guys will do one practice session with the greco guys and it is always equal parts laughable and embarrassing how even basic par terre technique is lost on them... that is as much on the coaches as the athletes... Expand Agreed. On 1/25/2023 at 11:09 PM, Mike Parrish said: One of the things that bothers me about the women's freestyle is that the amount of time you get on top (with some refs) is so short that you really don't have time to set much up. Expand Yes, this happens in MFS too. I think 20 seconds should be given if the person on top is actually actively trying something. Par terre should be emphasized way more. It's how you score after the takedown. Watching early Sadulaev should be mandatory. mspart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 last season a point of emphasis for refs (as per USAW) was that in greco passivity and chosen par terre situation there would be 25-30 seconds given for par terre work... they earned it they should get it was the thinking... that was not what happened internationally for whatever reason... regardless... the reality is if you are just laying on top of someone and not even attempting a legitimate exposure at all (pretty much all of par terre outside of greco) then there is little point allowing that poor wrestling to continue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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