BAC Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Has there ever been a NCAA D1 dual meet with as many individual NCAA titles between the two teams as PSU v Iowa this weekend? I count 10: 3 Lee, 2 RBY, 2 Brooks, 2 Starocci, 1 Dean. I think it might be a record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, BAC said: Has there ever been a NCAA D1 dual meet with as many individual NCAA titles between the two teams as PSU v Iowa this weekend? I count 10: 3 Lee, 2 RBY, 2 Brooks, 2 Starocci, 1 Dean. I think it might be a record. You left out Tom, Terry, Carl ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, ionel said: You left out Tom, Terry, Carl ... Casey Cunningham has one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Because no one mentioned him... Varner. He has two. Edited January 23, 2023 by Pinnacle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinnacle Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 And since BTN will show them in Row 1 ... Kyle Snyder has 3? Nolf 3. Zain 3. Probably a few others in attendance as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Pinnacle said: And since BTN will show them in Row 1 ... Kyle Snyder has 3? Nolf 3. Zain 3. Probably a few others in attendance as well. Nick Lee 2, David Taylor 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: And since BTN will show them in Row 1 ... Kyle Snyder has 3? Nolf 3. Zain 3. Probably a few others in attendance as well. I'm just talking about titles among the wrestlers in the lineup, of course. But that reminds me of the 1998 dual between tOSU and PSU, which I think would've had 8, except Nolf didn't wrestle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 34 minutes ago, BAC said: I'm just talking about titles among the wrestlers in the lineup, of course. But that reminds me of the 1998 dual between tOSU and PSU, which I think would've had 8, except Nolf didn't wrestle. Nolf was 2 at the time so it was probably for the best. Sorry, I could not resist. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 39 minutes ago, BAC said: I'm just talking about titles among the wrestlers in the lineup, of course. But that reminds me of the 1998 dual between tOSU and PSU, which I think would've had 8, except Nolf didn't wrestle. How did Kemerer do that day? 1 Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: And since BTN will show them in Row 1 ... Kyle Snyder has 3? Nolf 3. Zain 3. Probably a few others in attendance as well. 54 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Nick Lee 2, David Taylor 2 Let's not forget Dake with 4 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 And how could you forget the NCAA title of the guy who always brings hips to the party ... Mr. Jim Gibbons, who will likely be barking & Spark-ing with Shane on play by play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BAC said: Has there ever been a NCAA D1 dual meet with as many individual NCAA titles between the two teams as PSU v Iowa this weekend? I count 10: 3 Lee, 2 RBY, 2 Brooks, 2 Starocci, 1 Dean. I think it might be a record. The 2018 dual meet between PSU and Ohio State featured 9. It would have been 10 but Nolf sat out with an injury. Breakdown is Tomasello (1), Retherford (2), Nolf (1 DNW), Joseph (1), Hall (1), Martin (1), Nickal (1), Snyder (2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 47 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Nolf was 2 at the time so it was probably for the best. Sorry, I could not resist. LOL 1998, 2018, same thing. :] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, fishbane said: The 2018 dual meet between PSU and Ohio State featured 9. It would have been 10 but Nolf sat out with an injury. Breakdown is Tomasello (1), Retherford (2), Nolf (1 DNW), Joseph (1), Hall (1), Martin (1), Nickal (1), Snyder (2). Thanks. That's the one I was thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, BAC said: Thanks. That's the one I was thinking of. It's a much more compelling distribution than the upcoming PSU-Iowa dual. That dual had 5 on one side and 4 on the other. This is a 7/3 split. Also those 9 championships were spread over 7 wrestlers (4 for PSU and 3 for Ohio State) Friday it will only be 5 with PSU fielding 4 of those 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BAC said: LOL 1998, 2018, same thing. :] Y2K strikes again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Any old nwca all star dual ? What about wno or USA vs pa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Caveira said: Any old nwca all star dual ? What about wno or USA vs pa? I think the premise is titles already won at time of the dual or total titles ever won. Some ISU Iowa matches early 80s would be way up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, 11986 said: I think the premise is titles already won at time of the dual or total titles ever won. Some ISU Iowa matches early 80s would be way up there. Aaah fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, fishbane said: It's a much more compelling distribution than the upcoming PSU-Iowa dual. That dual had 5 on one side and 4 on the other. This is a 7/3 split. Also those 9 championships were spread over 7 wrestlers (4 for PSU and 3 for Ohio State) Friday it will only be 5 with PSU fielding 4 of those 5. I think it depends on one's perspective as to which is more compelling: number of titlists, number of titles, or number of multi-time titlists? Active multi-time NCAA champions are as rare as hen's teeth, and this dual will have 4 wrestlers in it who are multi-time champs -- which itself probably a record, in addition to what appears to be a record for the total number of individual titles in a dual (10). But tough to beat the 2018 PSU-tOSU dual for number of titlists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, BAC said: I think it depends on one's perspective as to which is more compelling: number of titlists, number of titles, or number of multi-time titlists? Yeah but this dual all the titles are on one team, Spencer excepted. Any PSU dual this season will have 7 NCAA titles in the lineup. The additional of Spencer Lee is significant, but he will be wrestling the #40 guy or something like that. 1 hour ago, BAC said: Active multi-time NCAA champions are as rare as hen's teeth, and this dual will have 4 wrestlers in it who are multi-time champs -- which itself probably a record, in addition to what appears to be a record for the total number of individual titles in a dual (10). That is true, but Cael has done an amazing job producing these at PSU. Probably 90% of PSU dual meets from the 2010-2011 season through today featured 3 or more wrestlers that would ultimately win 2+ NCAA titles. It's crazy. The only think that would result in this dual rivaling the 2018 Ohio State-PSU dual is if Iowa somehow pulls it out, but that probably won't even do it. Maybe if it was at Carver-hawkeye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 hours ago, SocraTease said: And how could you forget the NCAA title of the guy who always brings hips to the party ... Mr. Jim Gibbons, who will likely be barking & Spark-ing with Shane on play by play. But NO Motley Crue for Jim! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: But NO Motley Crue for Jim! And he'll tell ya NO... Edited January 24, 2023 by MPhillips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 hours ago, SocraTease said: And how could you forget the NCAA title of the guy who always brings hips to the party ... Mr. Jim Gibbons, who will likely be barking & Spark-ing with Shane on play by play. And he'll be wearing a belt buckle, have his shoelaces tied and there will be "separation" between him and Sparkplug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, 11986 said: I think the premise is titles already won at time of the dual or total titles ever won. Some ISU Iowa matches early 80s would be way up there. I was thinking the same thing, along with Iowa, Oklahoma State and Iowa State duals....back then the Big 8 was the best wrestling conference in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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