Mr. PeanutButter Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Did he weigh in light? Wrestling Rini right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 Even at 133, Glory outsized Rini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 15 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Did he weigh in light? Wrestling Rini right now I think he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizzouFan01 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Wrestled 133 again tonight beating Koehler of Rider. Will his lack of matches/resume affect his seeding at NCAAS? Obviously Lee will get the one, but does Glory really deserve a top 2-4 seed with such limited matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, MizzouFan01 said: does Glory really deserve a top 2-4 seed with such limited matches. Not in the third week of January... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, MizzouFan01 said: Wrestled 133 again tonight beating Koehler of Rider. Will his lack of matches/resume affect his seeding at NCAAS? Obviously Lee will get the one, but does Glory really deserve a top 2-4 seed with such limited matches. Did he weigh in light? As to your question, even if he splits time between 125 and 133 until conferences, he's likely to go undefeated so who would you seed ahead of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Blades Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 27 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Did he weigh in light? As to your question, even if he splits time between 125 and 133 until conferences, he's likely to go undefeated so who would you seed ahead of him? The matches at 133 don't count towards RPI or record. As of now he has 4 matches against D1 opponents at 125, and none of them ranked. I think that's going to haunt him in seeding. It might not matter, but if he get's a bad early draw, and is hurting with the weight cut... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizzouFan01 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Did he weigh in light? As to your question, even if he splits time between 125 and 133 until conferences, he's likely to go undefeated so who would you seed ahead of him? I wouldn’t, it would be him and Lee 1/2. His resume just wouldn’t scream #2 seed. Idk his schedule, but I don’t think he’s faced anyone top 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUWrestler Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Glory does have a win over Brandon Courtney, who is ranked in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Did he weigh in light? As to your question, even if he splits time between 125 and 133 until conferences, he's likely to go undefeated so who would you seed ahead of him? If he stays at 133 in February, he has Arujau one weekend, and Colaiocco and McGonagle the next weekend. The most he could weigh in against the latter two would be 131 and still make 125 at EIWAs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, Red Blades said: The matches at 133 don't count towards RPI or record. As of now he has 4 matches against D1 opponents at 125, and none of them ranked. I think that's going to haunt him in seeding. It might not matter, but if he get's a bad early draw, and is hurting with the weight cut... He does have a win over Courtney (as well as Kaylor and Dean Peterson x2, but I don't think these are top 15 guys). I hear your overall point though. He probably doesn't deserve a #2 seed if he misses a bunch of matches at 125, but, assuming that's his weight for conferences, he is very likely going to be the only other undefeated 125er so I'm not sure who could be seeded above him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizzouFan01 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 54 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: He does have a win over Courtney (as well as Kaylor and Dean Peterson x2, but I don't think these are top 15 guys). I hear your overall point though. He probably doesn't deserve a #2 seed if he misses a bunch of matches at 125, but, assuming that's his weight for conferences, he is very likely going to be the only other undefeated 125er so I'm not sure who could be seeded above him. There isn’t anyone. That’s the knock on the weight. After Lee, there is no one else even close including Glory. Probably the weakest and most shallow weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Blades Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 10 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: He does have a win over Courtney (as well as Kaylor and Dean Peterson x2, but I don't think these are top 15 guys). I hear your overall point though. He probably doesn't deserve a #2 seed if he misses a bunch of matches at 125, but, assuming that's his weight for conferences, he is very likely going to be the only other undefeated 125er so I'm not sure who could be seeded above him. You are right, I somehow missed counting a couple of 125 matches - so he's in better shape than I thought, with just under 8 matches at weight, and a couple of high ranking wins. He may not get the RPI, but he'll clearly have enough for a coaches' ranking after the EIWA tournament, if not sooner. I don't see anyone else getting a Head-to-head win over him, and winning % should be tops. That should be enough to put him at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Red Blades said: You are right, I somehow missed counting a couple of 125 matches - so he's in better shape than I thought, with just under 8 matches at weight, and a couple of high ranking wins. He may not get the RPI, but he'll clearly have enough for a coaches' ranking after the EIWA tournament, if not sooner. I don't see anyone else getting a Head-to-head win over him, and winning % should be tops. That should be enough to put him at the top. If he wins EIWA tourney at 125 and is undefeated, I like his chances of at least a #3 seed which is moral equivalent of a #2 seed (which he probably gets). EIWA is not the B1G but pretty tough. As I have posted before, it is a slice of unfortunate foolishness to adopt seeding criteria that disregards the highly relevant results of a wrestler competing at an adjacent weight class. It is the kind of knucklehead thinking that has tended to plague NCAA seeding. For example, if Glory bumped up and beat Vito, that win should be disregarded entirely in seeding? Of course not. The people who made this rule should smack themselves thrice and quit tournament administration for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 11 hours ago, BigRedFan said: If he stays at 133 in February, he has Arujau one weekend, and Colaiocco and McGonagle the next weekend. The most he could weigh in against the latter two would be 131 and still make 125 at EIWAs. I'd love to be wrong, but there is no way he wrestles the tougher matches at 133, especially Arujua. He would be at a disadvantage because he has to keep his weight down, and he needs a 2/3 seed. He will either weigh in at 125 to get more matches there or duck altogether. They only care about one match at this point, and that is the finals against Lee, where he will outweigh him by ~10 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 25 minutes ago, Crotalus said: I'd love to be wrong, but there is no way he wrestles the tougher matches at 133, especially Arujua. He would be at a disadvantage because he has to keep his weight down, and he needs a 2/3 seed. He will either weigh in at 125 to get more matches there or duck altogether. They only care about one match at this point, and that is the finals against Lee, where he will outweigh him by ~10 lbs. Probably right - but sometimes the passion for a big match may lead to suprising decisions. Glory may want the sht at Vito and I bet Vito would welcome the challenge. Probably just my wish taht will not happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Blades Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Elevator said: For example, if Glory bumped up and beat Vito, that win should be disregarded entirely in seeding? Of course not. The people who made this rule should smack themselves thrice and quit tournament administration for good. Except I think these results do count unofficially, by way of the Coaches Rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUWrestler Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 As much as I would love to see a Glory/Arujau rematch, I don’t think it’s happening. Wrestling a top 5 guy while giving up 5+ pounds, at Cornell? Doesn’t sound wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevator Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Red Blades said: Except I think these results do count unofficially, by way of the Coaches Rankings. you Cornell guys are smart - I don't care what Lehigh fans keep saying about you! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Glory gassed big time against Ryan Miller (Penn). Called three times for stalling in the third period. I think the final score was 8-6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Ryan the Thriller Miller rising again at the right time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 25 minutes ago, BigRedFan said: Glory gassed big time against Ryan Miller (Penn). Called three times for stalling in the third period. I think the final score was 8-6? When wrestling Glory, never have your coach throw a brick... never take an injury time.... and pre-pack your nose for blood so he never gets a timeout. 2 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, BigRedFan said: Glory gassed big time against Ryan Miller (Penn). Called three times for stalling in the third period. I think the final score was 8-6? So what we're getting at is if Spencer and Glory meet in the finals we'll have a gas off I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 So what we're getting at is if Spencer and Glory meet in the finals we'll have a gas offCouple of dudes stumbling around like they’re drunk out of their gourds.That said, Glory will have all day to rehydrate.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawrestler Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 25 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: So what we're getting at is if Spencer and Glory meet in the finals we'll have a gas off When that third period hits 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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