Wrestleknownothing Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2023-01-19/ncaa-releases-first-coaches-ranking-2023-division-i-wrestling-championships To qualify for the rankings a wrestler muat have 8 matches against D1 opponents (who are also not teammates). So there are a lot of wrestlers who haven't hit that criteria yet, but will. Spencer Lee, RBY, and Yianni Diakomihalis are missing, for example. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 What’s the point of the qualifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 1:11 PM, Offthemat said: What’s the point of the qualifications? Expand To qualify. 2 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 12:27 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2023-01-19/ncaa-releases-first-coaches-ranking-2023-division-i-wrestling-championships To qualify for the rankings a wrestler muat have 8 matches against D1 opponents (who are also not teammates). So there are a lot of wrestlers who haven't hit that criteria yet, but will. Spencer Lee, RBY, and Yianni Diakomihalis are missing, for example. Expand So we all know these ranking are flawed but if you only used these data what would the data wizardry show for current team rankings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 It could show Rutgers in first place, but who’d pay any more heed to it than they do the individual rankings? They’re obviously flawed. Unless that’s the minimum requirement for entering the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 I think the coaches are on to something. The way to keep PSU off the podium is to keep them out of the tournament. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 52.1 points to win. When’s the last time that happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 6:09 PM, Offthemat said: 52.1 points to win. When’s the last time that happened? Expand 52.1 plus bonus. The first place team usually scores around 24 bonus points. But that seems unlikely if you only score 52 advancement and placement points, so lets call it 15 bonus. That gets you around 67 total. The last time that would have won was 1960 when the tournament was only scored to four places and first place was only worth 10 points. But this way is more democratic. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1963 Oklahoma with 48 points. Iowa State 2nd with 45 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 We got different info. Mine came from here: https://www.ncaa.com/history/wrestling/d1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 6:23 PM, Offthemat said: We got different info. Mine came from here: https://www.ncaa.com/history/wrestling/d1 Expand nope. I just scanned my data and missed 1963. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Were there only 4 AAs back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpeltf Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 6:30 PM, Offthemat said: Were there only 4 AAs back then? Expand 6 but it was the first year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 6:41 PM, gimpeltf said: 6 but it was the first year Expand Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 6:05 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: I think the coaches are on to something. The way to keep PSU off the podium is to keep them out of the tournament. Expand That's what I'm talking about, wouldn't that be a fun tournament. The coaches have spoken, those other guys don't qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 6:05 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: I think the coaches are on to something. The way to keep PSU off the podium is to keep them out of the tournament. Expand I'll take PSU as a dark horse to win it all 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 7:47 PM, PortaJohn said: I'll take PSU as a dark horse to win it all Expand I'm sure Jimmy will take that bet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 7:47 PM, PortaJohn said: I'll take PSU as a dark horse to win it all Expand I will take the other side of that bet. Put me down for $1 trillion in a basket of LUNA, UST, and a few coins I will invent if I lose the bet. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show_Me Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 12:27 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: To qualify for the rankings a wrestler muat have 8 matches against D1 opponents (who are also not teammates). So there are a lot of wrestlers who haven't hit that criteria yet, but will. Spencer Lee, RBY, and Yianni Diakomihalis are missing, for example. Expand Why isn't Cronin (Nebraska) on the Coaches 125# Ranking ? What am I missing here ? WKN, anybody ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 12:44 AM, Show_Me said: Why isn't Cronin (Nebraska) on the Coaches 125# Ranking ? What am I missing here ? WKN, anybody ? Expand Sure seems like an oversight. He has enough matches and was 13-2 at the time of the vote. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 1:13 AM, Wrestleknownothing said: Sure seems like an oversight. He has enough matches and was 13-2 at the time of the vote. Expand So ... you are saying you don't know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 1:28 AM, ionel said: So ... you are saying you don't know? Expand Everything about me screams it. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 1:32 AM, Wrestleknownothing said: Everything about me screams it. Expand I'm sure I speak for many on these here boards in saying we really question your commitment to the scream when you don't throw a ! behind it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show_Me Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/7/2023 at 1:13 AM, Wrestleknownothing said: Sure seems like an oversight. He has enough matches and was 13-2 at the time of the vote. Expand Seems so. How do the Coaches have an “oversight” on a wrestler just coming off consecutive wins against the Intermat #3 & #4 (DeAugustino & McKee) literally days before the Ranking. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 RDM is the new DDM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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